Lufthansa Group service to Bristol [BRS]
Dec 20, 2023, 6:07 am
#92
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: HAG
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Dec 20, 2023, 6:10 am
#93
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 29
10 flights booked directly with Lufthansa on the Bristol route cancelled last night, 22 booked using United miles cancelled this morning. 32 cancelled flights in less than 24 hours is a record for me. Lufthansa just cancelled my flights with refund as the only option, United phoned me to see if I wanted to fly via Birmingham. I said to cancel the lot and I'd rebook.
Dec 20, 2023, 6:24 am
#94
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 29
What does all going to EN mean? Apologies but I don't post here much so not familiar with all the terms.
Dec 20, 2023, 6:25 am
#95
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Location: Geneva
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Dec 20, 2023, 6:27 am
#96
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Location: MUC
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Air Dolomiti (EN) and Austrian (OS) received the E190 & E195 fleet that Lufthansa Cityline (CLH) used to operate. CLH will get factory fresh A320neo to replace them as per plan, but that was the plan. The PW engine issue has thrown everything into disarray.
Dec 20, 2023, 6:34 am
#97
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Dec 20, 2023, 7:38 am
#98
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BRS (Bristol, UK)
Programs: LH SEN/*G
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Dec 20, 2023, 9:34 am
#99
Join Date: May 2020
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I know, I was joking. And indulging in wishful thinking. (There was a time years ago when there was a direct BRS-MUC flight - I think it might have been with Flybe or similar. It didn't last long.)
Dec 20, 2023, 9:55 am
#100
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BRS (Bristol, UK)
Programs: LH SEN/*G
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It was bmi regional, in their short lived attempt to use BRS as a base for a lot of flights to Germany. FRA, MUC, HAJ, HAM were all direct routes, but I think LH were really awkward about setting up codeshares and that, combined with bmi's questionable reliability, meant it became a money pit that dragged them under eventually.
Dec 20, 2023, 10:01 am
#101
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Years ago, I flew BA Connect BRS-MUC and BRS-CDG, before BA sold Connect to Fly(may)Be, which effectively handed most BRS routes to U2.
Dec 20, 2023, 10:06 am
#102
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 29
https://www.ttgmedia.com/news/luftha...-in-2024-43928
"Lufthansa will suspend flights from Liverpool on 2 February and Bristol a day later and has indicated they are unlikely to return. The airline blamed lack of aircraft for both decisions."
"Lufthansa will suspend flights from Liverpool on 2 February and Bristol a day later and has indicated they are unlikely to return. The airline blamed lack of aircraft for both decisions."
Jan 17, 2024, 12:56 am
#103
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BRS (Bristol, UK)
Programs: LH SEN/*G
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I see the Edelweiss (a member of the LH Group) have gone and leased four E195s to 'sustain operational reliability '. Apparently that was beyond Cityline to sustain a route with apparently >75% load factor.
I've shifted my North American flying over to Aer Lingus via DUB, and my Asian flying is going to SQ/TG out of LHR. I'll keep a minimum of intra-European on LH to keep on top of QPs, but I don't need to requal for a few years yet, so I'm going to give this whole debacle some cooling off time.
I've shifted my North American flying over to Aer Lingus via DUB, and my Asian flying is going to SQ/TG out of LHR. I'll keep a minimum of intra-European on LH to keep on top of QPs, but I don't need to requal for a few years yet, so I'm going to give this whole debacle some cooling off time.
Jan 17, 2024, 1:52 am
#104
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The wet and dry lease market in Europe and elsewhere is completely sold out due the P&W engine issue as everyone is scrambling to secure capacity. KLM has wetlease German Airways' E195 fleet to compensate their E295 grounding.
Jan 17, 2024, 2:05 am
#105
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BRS (Bristol, UK)
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You're right, it was Helvetic, that was my mistake, apologies.
My point still partly stands; there are aircraft out there if you want them. And I'm still not convinced that cutting a route showing >5% growth y-o-y (BRS-FRA) was smarter than cutting one showing 0-3% decline y-o-y (NCL-FRA), or one with less than 50% LF and running a few days a week (BHD-FRA). Still smells to me of "oh, they'll just go back to Heathrow".
My point still partly stands; there are aircraft out there if you want them. And I'm still not convinced that cutting a route showing >5% growth y-o-y (BRS-FRA) was smarter than cutting one showing 0-3% decline y-o-y (NCL-FRA), or one with less than 50% LF and running a few days a week (BHD-FRA). Still smells to me of "oh, they'll just go back to Heathrow".