Lufthansa Group service to Bristol [BRS]
Jul 7, 2022, 12:48 am
#77
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Location: BRS (Bristol, UK)
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It's not quite the complementary FRA hub service I was hoping for, but having gone on for *years* about how useful an LX service to ZRH would be, I'm hoping this is the beginning of something, not the extent of it. (At the moment it feels a bit like the briefly lived SK service to ARN).
Apr 22, 2023, 1:15 am
#78
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Location: BRS (Bristol, UK)
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I flew in on the ZRH-BRS last night (as part of an itin from W.Coast USA) and the loading was quite good.
As the BRS-FRA route flies (almost) alternately been morning and evening flights, having BRS-ZRH as an alternative (albeit, on not many days) is quite handy.
We now have three *A carriers at BRS - LH to FRA daily, LX to ZRH (MF), A3 to ATH (MF).
As the BRS-FRA route flies (almost) alternately been morning and evening flights, having BRS-ZRH as an alternative (albeit, on not many days) is quite handy.
We now have three *A carriers at BRS - LH to FRA daily, LX to ZRH (MF), A3 to ATH (MF).
Dec 20, 2023, 2:36 am
#79
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It seems LH will stop the FRA-BRS flight on 03FEB2024 
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TN2FEBFRABRS/ALH ** AMADEUS TIMETABLE - TN ** BRS BRISTOL.GB 02FEB24 09FEB24 1CL*LH 970 5 FRA 1 BRS 0920 1000 0 10NOV23 02FEB24 E90 1:40 2CL*LH 972 6 FRA 1 BRS 1555 1635 0 13JAN24 03FEB24 E90 1:40 NO MORE FLIGHTS 02FEB24 TO 09FEB24
Dec 20, 2023, 3:19 am
#80
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Well, that is an unwelcome Christmas gift.
I was looking at the schedule for 2024 only last week, where it was planned to go up to 10x weekly (M, T x2, W, Th x2, F, Sa x2, Su) and now it's entirely cancelled. Again. The latest CAA figures were quite good (6,500 pax per month, which I equated to 75% load factor), and more than NCL (4,500) which seems to have survived. Anecdotally, the flights I've been on have been reasonably full.
Let me see if I can find out any more from BRS.
I was looking at the schedule for 2024 only last week, where it was planned to go up to 10x weekly (M, T x2, W, Th x2, F, Sa x2, Su) and now it's entirely cancelled. Again. The latest CAA figures were quite good (6,500 pax per month, which I equated to 75% load factor), and more than NCL (4,500) which seems to have survived. Anecdotally, the flights I've been on have been reasonably full.
Let me see if I can find out any more from BRS.
Dec 20, 2023, 4:20 am
#81
Join Date: May 2020
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Disappointing news - whenever i've used it (most recently this summer) it's also been full, though the different flight times on different days sometimes made connections impossible. Guess it's AMS fun or the trek to LHR from now on. Or perhaps they're going to replace it with a MUC flight. 😂
Dec 20, 2023, 4:28 am
#82
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I'd be amazed if it made more sense to offer BRS-MUC over BRS-FRA, but it appears that incoherent things happen often with LH group and BRS. (The 2x weekly LX flight to ZRH survives).
The varying departure times weren't easy to work around; last week, as an example, I had to fly LHR-MUC outbound (getting the 0453 train from Temple Meads) but flew MUC-FRA-BRS back in the afternoon.
If they've killed FRA off, again, after 29 months, and with 6 weeks notice, its beginning to look like incompetence, not carelessness.
The varying departure times weren't easy to work around; last week, as an example, I had to fly LHR-MUC outbound (getting the 0453 train from Temple Meads) but flew MUC-FRA-BRS back in the afternoon.
If they've killed FRA off, again, after 29 months, and with 6 weeks notice, its beginning to look like incompetence, not carelessness.
Dec 20, 2023, 4:58 am
#83
Join Date: Dec 2019
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I got a steady stream of cancellation emails from Lufthansa for my Bristol - Frankfurt flights last night. Really surprised, I flew out on Friday from Bristol and the flight was sold out. Coming back on Monday the flight has been upgraded to a larger aircraft. Liverpool has also been axed.
Neither the trek to London nor going via Amsterdam is appealing. In the summer I used to catch the early morning departure from Frankfurt and arrive in Bristol before 9am and was able to do a full days work.
Neither the trek to London nor going via Amsterdam is appealing. In the summer I used to catch the early morning departure from Frankfurt and arrive in Bristol before 9am and was able to do a full days work.
Dec 20, 2023, 5:06 am
#84
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Maybe, from a distance, the problem with LPL and BRS is that they might be considered to be cannibalising traffic from "nearby" airports like MAN and LHR, where LH have more frequency and more destinations. (NCL is miles from anywhere, no real access to LHG flights from there).
Maybe inviting some LH execs to try out the 04:53 Bristol Temple Meads to Reading to Hayes and Harlington to Heathrow, so you can get an 08:45 flight to Munich, might persuade them otherwise.
CAA stats passenger traffic stats from October 2023:
FRA-LPL: 3,240
FRA-NCL: 3,724
FRA-BRS: 6,388
But sure, kill off FRA-BRS
Maybe inviting some LH execs to try out the 04:53 Bristol Temple Meads to Reading to Hayes and Harlington to Heathrow, so you can get an 08:45 flight to Munich, might persuade them otherwise.
CAA stats passenger traffic stats from October 2023:
FRA-LPL: 3,240
FRA-NCL: 3,724
FRA-BRS: 6,388
But sure, kill off FRA-BRS
Dec 20, 2023, 5:07 am
#85
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Posts: 29
Read in the Liverpool Echo it's due to a lack of aircraft.
"However, the airline will suspend the service from Liverpool from February. The ECHO understands this is due a lack of Lufthansa plane availability, as the airline faces maintenance work on some of its fleet."
"However, the airline will suspend the service from Liverpool from February. The ECHO understands this is due a lack of Lufthansa plane availability, as the airline faces maintenance work on some of its fleet."
Dec 20, 2023, 5:25 am
#86
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The P&W engine issue is grounding a substantial part of their A320neo fleet this winter. The CLH E90 (which usually fly to BRS) are all going to EN this season and the CLH A320 deliveries are 3-6 months late.
Dec 20, 2023, 5:29 am
#87
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A butterfly beats its wings and on the other side of the world, Bristol loses it's flights to Frankfurt.
Does this also mean the other CLH E90 destinations are getting cancelled? Assuming aircraft do, eventually, turn up, we might see a service resumption? (If so, I think that will be the fourth set of photos of me on the apron at Bristol, holding a sign announcing the launch of Bristol - Frankfurt. LH (2008), then BD/BM (2013), then LH (2021)).
Does this also mean the other CLH E90 destinations are getting cancelled? Assuming aircraft do, eventually, turn up, we might see a service resumption? (If so, I think that will be the fourth set of photos of me on the apron at Bristol, holding a sign announcing the launch of Bristol - Frankfurt. LH (2008), then BD/BM (2013), then LH (2021)).
Dec 20, 2023, 5:37 am
#88
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I guess BRS is one of the destinations that don't make as much money as others. EN is picking up some CLH routes, LH has also sent out a RFQ for CR9 type wet lease ops for FRA/MUC. I suppose something will happen in a few months.
Dec 20, 2023, 5:51 am
#90
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Given that BRS has 50% more pax than NCL (and I know volume != profit), I suspect it's because it's assumed LHR (and MAN for LPL) are 'close enough' to capture displaced passengers. *Sigh*