Denied boarding first flight by SN, due to lack of visa for connecting flight
Oct 20, 2015, 4:22 am
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Oct 20, 2015, 4:35 am
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Originally Posted by US Embassy, Moscow
The Russian government maintains a restrictive and complicated visa regime for foreigners who visit, transit, or reside in the Russian Federation. A U.S. citizen who does not comply with Russian visa laws can be subject to arrest, fines, and/or deportation.
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U.S. citizens should also be aware that Russian immigration and visa laws change regularly, and the implementation of new regulations has not always been transparent or predictable.
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Entry Visas: To enter Russia for any purpose, a U.S. citizen must possess a valid U.S. passport and a bona fide visa issued by a Russian Embassy or Consulate. It is impossible to obtain an entry visa upon arrival, so travelers must apply for their visas well in advance. U.S. citizens who apply for Russian visas in third countries where they do not have permission to stay more than 90 days may face considerable delays in visa processing. Travelers who arrive in Russia without an entry visa will not be permitted to enter the country, and face immediate return to the point of embarkation at their own expense.
Oct 20, 2015, 4:51 am
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Fanciful or not, I know of multiple people who only have American passports and have received Russian visas outside the USA, including some who received in London while simply visiting there for a couple of weeks
Oct 20, 2015, 5:50 am
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Oct 20, 2015, 10:28 am
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Were they in London on a stopover on their ticket to Russia?
Oct 20, 2015, 10:59 am
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Oct 20, 2015, 12:24 pm
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Don't know if it was the same ticket or not. Point wasn't about EU entry eligibility but about ability to get a visa in Europe for a non-European
So if we rule out an "onward/return flight ticket" and we also rule out "entry/transit visa", can you please tell us what "proper documentation" can mean?
The Schengen Borders Code regulation EC 562/2006 states, for non-EU nationals, among others:
they justify the purpose and conditions of the intended stay, and they have sufficient means of subsistence, both for the duration of the intended stay and for the return to their country of origin or transit to a third country into which they are certain to be admitted, or are in a position to acquire such means lawfully;
(Article 5, 1, c)
they justify the purpose and conditions of the intended stay, and they have sufficient means of subsistence, both for the duration of the intended stay and for the return to their country of origin or transit to a third country into which they are certain to be admitted, or are in a position to acquire such means lawfully;
(Article 5, 1, c)
Russia sometimes denies visa, but thats largely out of political considerations or because of formal mistakes. They most likely wont hit ordinary people.
Of course you can say that it is not guaranteed 100 per cent that he gets the visa. Point taken!
However, what is 100 per cent?
A lot of countries issue visa on arrival entry documents. Of course, no one can be 100 per cent sure to be able to receive that visa. Some weird stuff can always happen.
Oct 21, 2015, 2:47 am
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Bottom line did not even need that he could just take the train to anywhere outside Shengen or have a credit card to return to the US so no need to even to continue to Russia from BRU to get entry.....- therefore he was IDB and every court will recognize that!
Oct 21, 2015, 4:14 am
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While I agree that it was an IDB, I doubt that 'every' court would agree.
Especially higher courts are exclusively designed to manufacture elaborate rationalisations for things normal folks perceived as construed or incoherent.
Especially higher courts are exclusively designed to manufacture elaborate rationalisations for things normal folks perceived as construed or incoherent.
Oct 21, 2015, 10:31 am
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It depends on the story he told or made plausible. We did not witness the situation. I, however, certainly agree that the airline's approach stinks. It is. certainly again, not a IDB privileged under the EU rules but a massive breach of contract with all remedies available under the OP's local law. And this can be by far more interesting than the tiny money under EU rules.
Oct 22, 2015, 5:44 am
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Am I the only one thinking that the topic starter is releasing very minimal information and also seems to ignore all the other information (ticketing) requests?
Maybe it's just a post to discredit an airline....
Maybe it's just a post to discredit an airline....
Oct 22, 2015, 5:51 am
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Oct 22, 2015, 5:57 am
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Oct 23, 2015, 12:08 am
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