Mar 28, 2014, 7:06 am
Last edit by: warakorn
VC has announced a stike phase from 0am on 02APR14 till 11.59pm on 04APR14:
Expect massive advance cancellations. VC pilots only operate LH Mainline A32S, B737 and longhaul widebodies, so expect cancellations on such flights.
The current list of cancellations can be found here:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/portal/lh/de/flight_services/cancelled_flights?nodeid=118127922&l=de&cid=18002
Or just open your booking and take a look.
Once the cancellation is announced LH allows rebooking online or via the phone. The exact procedure is described here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufthansa-austrian-swiss-brussels-lot-other-partners-miles-more/1541419-flyertalk-vielfliegertreff-lufthansa-irreg-interview.html
According to EU passenger rights regulation EC261/2004 article 8, the operating carrier (Lufthansa) is responsible to reroute passengers under comparable transport conditions, to their final destination at the earliest opportunity.
Article 8 also applies in situations like strikes.
Tickets issued for 2-4APR just received a waiver to rebook for free:
Die VC wird ihre Mitglieder vom 02. April 00.00 Uhr bis 04. April 23.59 Uhr zum bundesweiten Arbeitskampf zur Durchsetzung eines neuen Tarifvertrages Übergangsversorgung aufrufen.
The current list of cancellations can be found here:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/portal/lh/de/flight_services/cancelled_flights?nodeid=118127922&l=de&cid=18002
Or just open your booking and take a look.
Once the cancellation is announced LH allows rebooking online or via the phone. The exact procedure is described here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/lufthansa-austrian-swiss-brussels-lot-other-partners-miles-more/1541419-flyertalk-vielfliegertreff-lufthansa-irreg-interview.html
According to EU passenger rights regulation EC261/2004 article 8, the operating carrier (Lufthansa) is responsible to reroute passengers under comparable transport conditions, to their final destination at the earliest opportunity.
Article 8 also applies in situations like strikes.
Tickets issued for 2-4APR just received a waiver to rebook for free:
Announced strike of the pilots union from April, 2nd – 4th, 2014
The pilots union “Vereinigung Cockpit” (VC) has called upon its members at Lufthansa, Lufthansa Cargo and Germanwings to cease work for three days from Wednesday, April 2nd 2014, 00:00, to Friday, 4th April 2014, at 23:59 at all German airports.
In order to keep impact of the strike as low as possible, Lufthansa will inform its customers about details of flight cancellations and alternative travel options via www.LH.com as soon as possible. Customers, who advised their contact information, will be informed by e-mail and SMS notifications about changes of their flights.
Lufthansa will publish a list with cancelled flights as well as information for passenger services on Monday afternoon, 31st March 2014.
Passengers holding a Lufthansa/SWISS/Austrian Airlines or Brussels ticket for flights on April 2nd – April 4th, 2014 from/to/via Germany, are permitted to rebook their flight once free of charge online via My Bookings with immediate effect, provided that:
- the ticket was issued on/before March 28th, 2014
- the new travel date is on/before September 30th, 2014
- the original ticket class remains
- all other fare conditions are adhered to
Passengers may also contact our service center on +49(0)69-86-799-799* or via one of our local phone numbers.
* Calls from German landlines at local rates, call charges from German mobile networks may vary dependent upon the provider
The pilots union “Vereinigung Cockpit” (VC) has called upon its members at Lufthansa, Lufthansa Cargo and Germanwings to cease work for three days from Wednesday, April 2nd 2014, 00:00, to Friday, 4th April 2014, at 23:59 at all German airports.
In order to keep impact of the strike as low as possible, Lufthansa will inform its customers about details of flight cancellations and alternative travel options via www.LH.com as soon as possible. Customers, who advised their contact information, will be informed by e-mail and SMS notifications about changes of their flights.
Lufthansa will publish a list with cancelled flights as well as information for passenger services on Monday afternoon, 31st March 2014.
Passengers holding a Lufthansa/SWISS/Austrian Airlines or Brussels ticket for flights on April 2nd – April 4th, 2014 from/to/via Germany, are permitted to rebook their flight once free of charge online via My Bookings with immediate effect, provided that:
- the ticket was issued on/before March 28th, 2014
- the new travel date is on/before September 30th, 2014
- the original ticket class remains
- all other fare conditions are adhered to
Passengers may also contact our service center on +49(0)69-86-799-799* or via one of our local phone numbers.
* Calls from German landlines at local rates, call charges from German mobile networks may vary dependent upon the provider
VC Pilots Strike 02-04 APR 2014 [discussion & info wiki]
Mar 31, 2014, 5:35 am
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Mar 31, 2014, 5:39 am
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Not too many KONT flights are in this list.
Mar 31, 2014, 5:43 am
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Mar 31, 2014, 5:44 am
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When I see the list I get really angry at VC (and subsequently at the other unions) for abusing their power in such a way.
Mar 31, 2014, 5:48 am
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Shouldn't ask you to login, otherwise try a with a different browser! ^
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Mar 31, 2014, 5:54 am
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Mar 31, 2014, 5:54 am
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Greetings - Dirk
Mar 31, 2014, 5:59 am
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than 
Mar 31, 2014, 6:00 am
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Also Germanwings started to cancel flights. They seem to be going forward day by day in terms of posting them, so e.g. this is what it looks like for April 2nd on CGN-HAM:
02. Apr 14 4U 32 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 07:00 08:05 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7039 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 08:40 09:45 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 36 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 10:20 11:25 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7035 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 12:00 13:05 Planmäßig
02. Apr 14 4U 34 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 15:45 16:50 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7033 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 17:25 18:30 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 30 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 19:05 20:10 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7037 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 20:45 21:50 Gestrichen
For April 3rd everything is still listed as "on time" - I guess this will change once the get to the next day...
Greetings - Dirk
02. Apr 14 4U 32 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 07:00 08:05 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7039 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 08:40 09:45 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 36 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 10:20 11:25 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7035 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 12:00 13:05 Planmäßig
02. Apr 14 4U 34 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 15:45 16:50 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7033 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 17:25 18:30 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 30 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 19:05 20:10 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7037 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 20:45 21:50 Gestrichen
For April 3rd everything is still listed as "on time" - I guess this will change once the get to the next day...
Greetings - Dirk
Mar 31, 2014, 6:05 am
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What I cannot understand at all (also see one of my previous comments) is the fact that a union (no matter whether it's VC or Ver.di (which, btw, decided that's it's a great idea to initiate a strike at the airports so that kindergarten employees will get a raise that they deserve) or any other union (just remember the DB - GDL standoff a couple of years ago)) has the power to shut down a significant part of the economy / country. Last week Ver.di did shut down seven airports, this week it's VC shutting down LH for THREE damn days, next week it'll be the baggage handlers, followed by the caterers and then oh yea, let's join the strike train, the flight attendants go on strike and so on, and so on. I wonder what impact these strikes will have on LH's numbers and on the result of SCORE.
And btw, I think that an ATC strike is still lingering somewhere around the corner.
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Mar 31, 2014, 6:10 am
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Well, since the winter didn't happen this year LH shouldn't see any major upsets in the balance sheet. Plus look at the chaos last year when FAs and ATC went on strike, so YOY numbers wise they are OK.
Sadly the ease with which LH has managed the half day verdi strike probably inspired VC to go for 3 instead of one day...
Sadly the ease with which LH has managed the half day verdi strike probably inspired VC to go for 3 instead of one day...
Mar 31, 2014, 6:17 am
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02. Apr 14 4U 32 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 07:00 08:05 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7039 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 08:40 09:45 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 36 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 10:20 11:25 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7035 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 12:00 13:05 Planmäßig
02. Apr 14 4U 34 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 15:45 16:50 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7033 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 17:25 18:30 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 30 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 19:05 20:10 Gestrichen
02. Apr 14 4U 7037 Köln-Bonn (CGN) Hamburg (HAM) 20:45 21:50 Gestrichen
[RANT]
What I cannot understand at all (also see one of my previous comments) is the fact that a union (no matter whether it's VC or Ver.di (which, btw, decided that's it's a great idea to initiate a strike at the airports so that kindergarten employees will get a raise that they deserve) or any other union (just remember the DB - GDL standoff a couple of years ago)) has the power to shut down a significant part of the economy / country. Last week Ver.di did shut down seven airports, this week it's VC shutting down LH for THREE damn days, next week it'll be the baggage handlers, followed by the caterers and then oh yea, let's join the strike train, the flight attendants go on strike and so on, and so on...
[/RANT]
What I cannot understand at all (also see one of my previous comments) is the fact that a union (no matter whether it's VC or Ver.di (which, btw, decided that's it's a great idea to initiate a strike at the airports so that kindergarten employees will get a raise that they deserve) or any other union (just remember the DB - GDL standoff a couple of years ago)) has the power to shut down a significant part of the economy / country. Last week Ver.di did shut down seven airports, this week it's VC shutting down LH for THREE damn days, next week it'll be the baggage handlers, followed by the caterers and then oh yea, let's join the strike train, the flight attendants go on strike and so on, and so on...
[/RANT]
I wonder what impact these strikes will have on LH's numbers and on the result of SCORE.
