New Business Class coming to LH [merged]
Sep 18, 2011, 9:35 am
#46
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I think you meant to say, "I sure hope that SN *and its parent company* would expedite both of their plans to upgrade their business class." Certainly there has been no leadership by LH in expediting the business class refit/upgrade, and if anything the parent company has been talking longer about this than SN.
Sep 19, 2011, 1:31 am
#47
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SN is getting some A330s from the LH group (1 from LX, some new) to improve their fleet and then move to upgrade the interiors. Currently they can't pull aircraft from regular rotations for refits because there is no spare capacity.
Sep 19, 2011, 3:38 am
#48
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That is a complete nonsense.
A great majority of LH crew are still german. LH has never had a point where it decided to be more international and employ other nationalities as cabin crew.
Foreign nationalities have always been welcomed at LH and as Germany became more diverse nation, so did LH.
A great majority of LH crew are still german. LH has never had a point where it decided to be more international and employ other nationalities as cabin crew.
Foreign nationalities have always been welcomed at LH and as Germany became more diverse nation, so did LH.
LH has made that very decision (to become more international) years ago and at least on Asian flights, 10-20% of the crew are "local". No nonsense here, I'm afraid.
Sep 19, 2011, 8:06 am
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Really? I mean the majority of the crew are still German, that's obviously correct. But what about the Chinese, the Thais, the Indians and the Japanese that are present on every flight to and from Asia?
LH has made that very decision (to become more international) years ago and at least on Asian flights, 10-20% of the crew are "local". No nonsense here, I'm afraid.
LH has made that very decision (to become more international) years ago and at least on Asian flights, 10-20% of the crew are "local". No nonsense here, I'm afraid.
Sep 19, 2011, 10:38 am
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Didn't know that SN apparently will get new A333's as well
Sep 19, 2011, 1:02 pm
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The Jet product is much better than LH's, but I refuse to fly via BRU any longer, as there is zero infrastructure for us there, and everything is overpriced, even if you want to buy some chocolate as a gift.
So FRA or MUC it is - on LH. (Even though the biz/first product is deficient, I still prefer a strong hub to be able to support the flights I'm on)
Waiting to see what biz product LH brings out...
Sep 19, 2011, 1:44 pm
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I refuse to fly via BRU any longer, as there is zero infrastructure for us there, and everything is overpriced, even if you want to buy some chocolate as a gift.
Sep 19, 2011, 1:47 pm
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(Us = India-based FF'ers)
(Oh yes, I used to fly SQ from BOM all the time to EWR, so that might seem absurd to you as well, I guess...)
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Sep 19, 2011, 8:06 pm
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No, it doesn't contradict this...
But, with all due respect, the following is in my view not the case either. We're not talking about numbers here, we're talking about a change in policy that allowed a sufficient number "local" crews on certain flights and that has happened. That is part of becoming "more international" in my book.
In any case and back to topic, if the new business class is similar to the new one of CX, it's going to be a big step forward. Then again, it would need to be a 1-2-1 layout on the 330/340's and I don't think that is going to happen, or is it?
But, with all due respect, the following is in my view not the case either. We're not talking about numbers here, we're talking about a change in policy that allowed a sufficient number "local" crews on certain flights and that has happened. That is part of becoming "more international" in my book.
In any case and back to topic, if the new business class is similar to the new one of CX, it's going to be a big step forward. Then again, it would need to be a 1-2-1 layout on the 330/340's and I don't think that is going to happen, or is it?
Sep 21, 2011, 11:15 am
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Someone (probably inadvertently) used a very scalable image of the new C in slide 7 of todays IR ppt: http://investor-relations.lufthansa....-21-id21id.pdf
Sep 21, 2011, 11:56 am
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Someone (probably inadvertently) used a very scalable image of the new C in slide 7 of todays IR ppt: http://investor-relations.lufthansa....-21-id21id.pdf
Sep 21, 2011, 12:08 pm
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Sep 21, 2011, 12:15 pm
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That new biz doesn't look too exciting at all, unfortunately.
After lucking out flying a Jet 77w in biz on a domestic sector (India) a few days ago, one realizes how good the Jet seat is - perfect for sleeping/dining/watching AVOD! (AVOD improved from previously horrible selections to becoming quite good! Also airvents available above the seat on the 77w)
Unfortunately, I choose not use them internationally due to the lack of an alliance membership - as well as LH's superior ground facilities.
After lucking out flying a Jet 77w in biz on a domestic sector (India) a few days ago, one realizes how good the Jet seat is - perfect for sleeping/dining/watching AVOD! (AVOD improved from previously horrible selections to becoming quite good! Also airvents available above the seat on the 77w)
Unfortunately, I choose not use them internationally due to the lack of an alliance membership - as well as LH's superior ground facilities.