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Jan 20, 2013, 3:32 am
#871
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YQ on UA
I am looking for an award from the USA to Europe. With luck and patience, I found an itn, entirely on UA. When I went to book it, LH stated that fees and taxes are 500Euros per ticket. I thought LH does not charge YQ when using partner airlines that don't collect YQ themselves. Was I mistaken or is this really the correct charge?
50,000 miles and 500 Euros seems very steep for a coach ticket. How do you avoid the YQ charge on award tickets with LH miles?
50,000 miles and 500 Euros seems very steep for a coach ticket. How do you avoid the YQ charge on award tickets with LH miles?
Jan 20, 2013, 4:46 am
#872
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I am looking for an award from the USA to Europe. With luck and patience, I found an itn, entirely on UA. When I went to book it, LH stated that fees and taxes are 500Euros per ticket. I thought LH does not charge YQ when using partner airlines that don't collect YQ themselves. Was I mistaken or is this really the correct charge?
50,000 miles and 500 Euros seems very steep for a coach ticket. How do you avoid the YQ charge on award tickets with LH miles?
50,000 miles and 500 Euros seems very steep for a coach ticket. How do you avoid the YQ charge on award tickets with LH miles?
Miles are best used for First Class ticket, and Business class secondary, but never for Coach. Often, a paid ticket in Economy is cheaper than using your miles and YQ on it..
Jan 20, 2013, 5:35 am
#873
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Jan 20, 2013, 6:08 am
#874
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You're simply not booking Couch using miles in long haul (and the same applies for short haul mostly too)
Miles are best used for First Class ticket, and Business class secondary, but never for Coach. Often, a paid ticket in Economy is cheaper than using your miles and YQ on it..
Miles are best used for First Class ticket, and Business class secondary, but never for Coach. Often, a paid ticket in Economy is cheaper than using your miles and YQ on it..
Jan 21, 2013, 1:49 am
#875
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Jan 21, 2013, 4:32 am
#876
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Jan 21, 2013, 5:50 am
#877
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Actually, M&M YQ are a problem for some years already and using miles for F/C travel or private Y flights on short notice within Europe (which can be very expensive at times) is the best way to go.
Jan 21, 2013, 11:00 pm
#878
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I prefer LHR somewhat over FRA. And they are both infinitely better than say CDG. ZRH deserves to flushed down now after they crippled the lounge Internet access.
Not at all. Racism is to support the penalization of a person based on their origin and not the non-acceptance of their cultural idiosyncrasies.
Maybe I have fallen into the list of person non grata like Weero and FRA security does not like the look of me..
Jan 22, 2013, 12:35 pm
#879
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Also I have had no issues in FRA or ZRH.
Since ZRH change its security system and moved the war criminals who ran the E gate security back onto the streets of Zurich, the airport has gained a lot of charm. Now FRA security is again worse than the ZRH one.
But back to your generic statement above: which airport in Asia do you consider inferior to SIN?
PEK can be bad at times but it makes up for it by superior lounges and real world food.
Jan 22, 2013, 12:40 pm
#880
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After my past three experiences at FRA, I would take LHR any day over FRA. FRA security has become a nightmare and makes even TSA look is better. In Novemebr I was going on holiday with a one year old on a day flight, they wanted to know why I have so many toys (about 8-10), made me switch on all the battery operated toys (mainly toys that make noise and flash lights). In December they wanted me to take my ipad out of the cover and switch it on, last time they wanted to take my camera out and wanted me to switch it on and take photos... LHR security is very civilised in comparison.
Maybe I have fallen into the list of person non grata like Weero and FRA security does not like the look of me..
Maybe I have fallen into the list of person non grata like Weero and FRA security does not like the look of me..
They are like TSA on steroids but off Prozac.
Jan 23, 2013, 1:39 am
#881
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Jan 23, 2013, 1:45 am
#882
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Jan 23, 2013, 1:49 am
#883
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Jan 23, 2013, 2:02 am
#884
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Jan 23, 2013, 7:23 am
#885
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Surprisingly I have come across a few- LHR still though is on the list of very poor airports for customer service at security checkpoints- yet FRA manages to move up this list more and more each time I fly thru.