Using JAL points on EK
Mar 14, 2017, 7:08 pm
#166
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 49
The JMB program requires you to be related to the award recipient. So in the case of a spouse where the last name is not shared, they may ask for proof. This happened to me as well where I was booking an award for me and my fiancee and they would not let me book the award for her unless we were married - it didn't matter that we would be married when we flew as it was part of a honeymoon. It was a good thing I asked before transferring SPG points to just my own JMB account. Luckily SPG allows you to transfer your points to someone else's account living in the same household. I was able to transfer points from SPG to SPG and then to our individual JMB accounts for separate award redemptions.
Downside is two PNR's and a possible loss of SPG's 5,000 point bonus for every 20,000 points redeemed. I transferred 30,000 points each - which resulted in 10,000 bonus points total as opposed to 15,000 bonus points if I had transferred the 60,000 points from one account.
Downside is two PNR's and a possible loss of SPG's 5,000 point bonus for every 20,000 points redeemed. I transferred 30,000 points each - which resulted in 10,000 bonus points total as opposed to 15,000 bonus points if I had transferred the 60,000 points from one account.
In this same situation - booking travel for my fiance and myself, but I made the mistake after points had been transferred (I didn't realize JAL was as tough as Korean Air). Completely and utterly ridiculous, but now I'm in the situation of seeing if they will take a copy of the marriage application. I've also pondered what would happen if I said I was traveling with my sister - assume they would ask for a birth certificate?
Apr 18, 2017, 12:45 pm
#168
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: Mileage Plus, AAdvantage
Posts: 424
Also I think sooner or later EK is going to force JL to change their award chart (just like they did for AS) given how much cheaper JL awards on EK are compared to other EK partners.
Apr 19, 2017, 12:14 pm
#169
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
To the poster above, if your sister has the same last name, no issues. Otherwise yes I guess they would require dual birth certificates to match a parent's name.
Last edited by cdancer20; Apr 19, 2017 at 12:26 pm
Apr 19, 2017, 12:18 pm
#170
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: Mileage Plus, AAdvantage
Posts: 424
I think that there has already been a change. I just looked back at my bookings. I booked in January and was charged $15.10. I had to reissue the ticket at the end of March due to changed routing. (More direct flight was available for my new dates.) I was charged $66.50 and I think that this was AFTER they refunded the $15.10 in the price.
Oh wait. I forgot that I added another flight on. Maybe the additional flight was more expensive but no way of knowing for sure.
Oh wait. I forgot that I added another flight on. Maybe the additional flight was more expensive but no way of knowing for sure.
Apr 19, 2017, 12:51 pm
#171
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
I changed my comment above so you can delete this. The fee was taken out of the cancellation fee. Thank you though.
Apr 20, 2017, 1:22 am
#172
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 66
In this same situation - booking travel for my fiance and myself, but I made the mistake after points had been transferred (I didn't realize JAL was as tough as Korean Air). Completely and utterly ridiculous, but now I'm in the situation of seeing if they will take a copy of the marriage application. I've also pondered what would happen if I said I was traveling with my sister - assume they would ask for a birth certificate?
Apr 21, 2017, 2:53 pm
#173
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Programs: UA-1k, 1mm, Marriott-LT Platinum, Hertz-Presidents Circle
Posts: 6,355
Ok which chart are we using... It was distanced based, but holy shiznits... found this chart which I haven't seen before..... price is region based now as both charts are found on the website..... really weird... hope they didn't switch back as I haven't found anything online.
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/use...k/ek_mile.html
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/use...k/ek_mile.html
Last edited by schley; Apr 21, 2017 at 2:59 pm
Apr 21, 2017, 3:04 pm
#174
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
Ok which chart are we using... It was distanced based, but holy shiznits... found this chart which I haven't seen before..... price is region based now as both charts are found on the website..... really weird... hope they didn't switch back as I haven't found anything online.
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/use...k/ek_mile.html
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/use...k/ek_mile.html
https://www.ar.jal.com/ar/en/jalmile...b_mile_ar.html
Apr 21, 2017, 7:39 pm
#175
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 4,431
Ok which chart are we using... It was distanced based, but holy shiznits... found this chart which I haven't seen before..... price is region based now as both charts are found on the website..... really weird... hope they didn't switch back as I haven't found anything online.
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/use...k/ek_mile.html
https://www.jal.co.jp/en/jalmile/use...k/ek_mile.html
I asked about this 1 page back.
May 15, 2017, 10:38 pm
#176
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
I just realized how much more expensive first class is then business. I mean I knew it was more but I guess I had my eyes so set on first class, that I didn't care. Paid 70k more points for 2 seats in first vs biz. However it's OK. It's my honeymoon so well worth it.
I came to post though some info in case anyone every runs into this question. It may be posted here already but I didn't feel like searching. It won't hurt if it's here again.
If you book a multi-leg ticket in one class, you can of course downgrade one segment if first class isn't available. In my instance, I have first-business-economy. I didn't care as much as long as I had the first leg (longest) in first class. You will have to pay the first class price though for the entire trip.
The news is that if a seat opens up in that class that you paid for, there is no problem calling them and having them re-book that segment of the trip in the class you paid for with NO change fees. In my case, the last leg in economy opened up some first class and business seats. I obviously took the first class. As for the second leg, I don't mind if we stay in business. I kind of want to see what that class is like to compare to first class. Plus it's only a 4 hour segment so I won't be losing out on much.
I came to post though some info in case anyone every runs into this question. It may be posted here already but I didn't feel like searching. It won't hurt if it's here again.
If you book a multi-leg ticket in one class, you can of course downgrade one segment if first class isn't available. In my instance, I have first-business-economy. I didn't care as much as long as I had the first leg (longest) in first class. You will have to pay the first class price though for the entire trip.
The news is that if a seat opens up in that class that you paid for, there is no problem calling them and having them re-book that segment of the trip in the class you paid for with NO change fees. In my case, the last leg in economy opened up some first class and business seats. I obviously took the first class. As for the second leg, I don't mind if we stay in business. I kind of want to see what that class is like to compare to first class. Plus it's only a 4 hour segment so I won't be losing out on much.
May 16, 2017, 10:30 am
#177
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: YYJ
Programs: Aeroplan,Alaska,Airmiles
Posts: 265
I just realized how much more expensive first class is then business. I mean I knew it was more but I guess I had my eyes so set on first class, that I didn't care. Paid 70k more points for 2 seats in first vs biz. However it's OK. It's my honeymoon so well worth it.
I came to post though some info in case anyone every runs into this question. It may be posted here already but I didn't feel like searching. It won't hurt if it's here again.
If you book a multi-leg ticket in one class, you can of course downgrade one segment if first class isn't available. In my instance, I have first-business-economy. I didn't care as much as long as I had the first leg (longest) in first class. You will have to pay the first class price though for the entire trip.
The news is that if a seat opens up in that class that you paid for, there is no problem calling them and having them re-book that segment of the trip in the class you paid for with NO change fees. In my case, the last leg in economy opened up some first class and business seats. I obviously took the first class. As for the second leg, I don't mind if we stay in business. I kind of want to see what that class is like to compare to first class. Plus it's only a 4 hour segment so I won't be losing out on much.
I came to post though some info in case anyone every runs into this question. It may be posted here already but I didn't feel like searching. It won't hurt if it's here again.
If you book a multi-leg ticket in one class, you can of course downgrade one segment if first class isn't available. In my instance, I have first-business-economy. I didn't care as much as long as I had the first leg (longest) in first class. You will have to pay the first class price though for the entire trip.
The news is that if a seat opens up in that class that you paid for, there is no problem calling them and having them re-book that segment of the trip in the class you paid for with NO change fees. In my case, the last leg in economy opened up some first class and business seats. I obviously took the first class. As for the second leg, I don't mind if we stay in business. I kind of want to see what that class is like to compare to first class. Plus it's only a 4 hour segment so I won't be losing out on much.
May 16, 2017, 11:05 am
#178
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
May 18, 2017, 10:07 am
#179
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 303
Was this booked within the last month, after the comments about JL now to charge YQ on EK flights? Have a boatload of SPG points to transfer but since JL MB does not even tell me what the anticipated fees and charges will be until am ready to book with the points in the account, am scared to only to find out thousands of dollars in YQ fees for a F redemption!
May 18, 2017, 10:16 am
#180
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hyatt Globalist No More..., Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 4,375
Was this booked within the last month, after the comments about JL now to charge YQ on EK flights? Have a boatload of SPG points to transfer but since JL MB does not even tell me what the anticipated fees and charges will be until am ready to book with the points in the account, am scared to only to find out thousands of dollars in YQ fees for a F redemption!