Transit travel to/from India under the 'air bubble' agreements [ends 27 March 2022]
#721
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 118
The highlighted bit really is the key. Neither EK nor QR are selling direct transits from India at this point, and staying a day in Dubai adds 24 hours and additional costs (and risk of exposure) to the itinerary. Staying in Doha is not even possible. So on the outbound from India it is the non-stops (UA/AI) that make the most sense from a time/cost/convenience perspective. Of course if you want to add Dubai sightseeing to the mix that's a different story.
Inbound there have largely been no restrictions for a while now.
Inbound there have largely been no restrictions for a while now.
#722
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 319
Qatar in fact is booking transit flights in both directions from the beginning at the time of booking, just like pre 2020. Emirates allows it on the inbound. You might be able to maneuver the outbound from India though like I did, by booking it with a one day stopover, then calling in and changing the second flight to leave on the same day.
Regarding EK, if they were offering direct same-day transit in DXB all your other points would hold good. Adding a 24-hr stopover (or running the risk of maneuvering with their call centre) is additional hassle. So till they do, I think the directs are better.
Outbound transit via the UK is allowed (VS & BA metal on various tickets), as is transit via CDG on Air France metal with a Delta ticket. These flights are much more convenient to west coast US destinations & I would argue (BA excepting) much better quality than UA/AI.
#723
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Everyone (US3, ME3, EU3) still have their summer schedule filed as if the pandemic and the bubble trouble didn't exist, and are accepting booking as if the bilaterals, not the bubble, apply. This is to put pressure on the MoCA to own up to their promise that the bubbles will be lifted for S21.
Depending on the outcome of the negotiations the schedules and bookings will be change to reflect the compromise. I wouldn't trust anything what is visible on the systems. The same drama happened in October a month before the start of the W20/21 schedule.
Depending on the outcome of the negotiations the schedules and bookings will be change to reflect the compromise. I wouldn't trust anything what is visible on the systems. The same drama happened in October a month before the start of the W20/21 schedule.
#724
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#725
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#726
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Posts: 852
Transit from India on Qatar Airways
Anyone have experience flying from India on Qatar Airways recently? It's about half the cost of Emirates but they have significant more restrictions on entry so I'm not sure how it works. They allow you to book a regular same day transit flight unlike Etihad or now Emirates.
#727
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Anyone have experience flying from India on Qatar Airways recently? It's about half the cost of Emirates but they have significant more restrictions on entry so I'm not sure how it works. They allow you to book a regular same day transit flight unlike Etihad or now Emirates.
#728
Join Date: Jan 2021
Posts: 319
As always with Indian immigration YMMV etc. At the time of her travel QR had stopped issuing through tickets from India but they honoured ones which had been booked earlier, so your booking should be safe. Also May is still some time off so bubble regulations might change by then...
#729
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PDX
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Posts: 5,240
Booking UA flights - Baggage allowance - check domestic connection airline
I booked a OW flight from CCU (India) to PDX (Portland) for early April using UA MP miles. Considering all the haziness with bubbles etc, decided to book the direct India - US flight.
UA website was showing very decent pricing and availability for this route with two stops (DEL, SFO) with the domestic connection (CCU-DEL) having availability in both AI or UK.
Initially I booked UK for CCU-DEL and then UA for DEL onwards. The ticket showed 1 pc baggage allowance for checked baggage.
Tried paying online ($100) for the 2nd bag and it did not allow as 1st sector was by partner airline.
I modified the domestic leg from UK to AI, with the same international connections and this ticket showed 2 pcs of checked in baggage allowance.
For some unknown reason, checked in baggage allowance seems to differ depending on which airline is being taken for the domestic leg.
Thought to post here and maybe relevant for some folks.
UA website was showing very decent pricing and availability for this route with two stops (DEL, SFO) with the domestic connection (CCU-DEL) having availability in both AI or UK.
Initially I booked UK for CCU-DEL and then UA for DEL onwards. The ticket showed 1 pc baggage allowance for checked baggage.
Tried paying online ($100) for the 2nd bag and it did not allow as 1st sector was by partner airline.
I modified the domestic leg from UK to AI, with the same international connections and this ticket showed 2 pcs of checked in baggage allowance.
For some unknown reason, checked in baggage allowance seems to differ depending on which airline is being taken for the domestic leg.
Thought to post here and maybe relevant for some folks.
#730
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But the baggage thing is a little complicated. Sometimes you don't see a correct baggage allowance across carriers (esp. non-alliance ones)... sometimes it's the status thing and sometimes it's IATA or USDoT that's nixing things up.
In your case assuming the allowance was stated correctly... and UK was a codeshare... then UA's allowance would apply. So if you don't have *G status and are flying Y - 1 bag is correct. AI might be offering a larger baggage allowance to connecting partners (since they offer the same on their US flights - including those connecting to UA/DL etc).
But this is good to know.
#731
Join Date: Jan 2013
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Anyone have experience flying from India on Qatar Airways recently? It's about half the cost of Emirates but they have significant more restrictions on entry so I'm not sure how it works. They allow you to book a regular same day transit flight unlike Etihad or now Emirates.
#733
Join Date: Jan 2013
Programs: Emirates, Delta, JetBlue, British Airways
Posts: 19
I’ve been looking for J fares in May back to Chennai, and fares are back to ore pandemic levels. I love QSuite, but probably will have to go with British.
#734
Join Date: Jun 2014
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Posts: 852
Thanks for the QR info. Good to know they are a reliable option from India to the US.
I figured out a workaround for Emirates btw. They won't/can't allow you to book a standard transit flight through the end of February as the air bubble continues through them (and will keep being extended) , but if you book a flight on a future date (even a few days later in March) for the same routing, you can call in to Emirates and they can then change it for free to a February date, though a fare difference may apply.
My initial options were two PNRs on one day in late February ($1600), or one PNR on the next day ($1300)--both as Economy Flex fares and one way. Instead I booked a day in March with an Economy Saver fare for $800. Called in immediately to change the date to late Feb, which they did with a fare difference of $100. I was told they could not take initial bookings for Feb same day flights due to the air bubble, but once it is booked and thus in their control, they can change a booking to be the same day.
So this works, and is yet another reason why everyone can avoid the AI lobby!
I figured out a workaround for Emirates btw. They won't/can't allow you to book a standard transit flight through the end of February as the air bubble continues through them (and will keep being extended) , but if you book a flight on a future date (even a few days later in March) for the same routing, you can call in to Emirates and they can then change it for free to a February date, though a fare difference may apply.
My initial options were two PNRs on one day in late February ($1600), or one PNR on the next day ($1300)--both as Economy Flex fares and one way. Instead I booked a day in March with an Economy Saver fare for $800. Called in immediately to change the date to late Feb, which they did with a fare difference of $100. I was told they could not take initial bookings for Feb same day flights due to the air bubble, but once it is booked and thus in their control, they can change a booking to be the same day.
So this works, and is yet another reason why everyone can avoid the AI lobby!
#735
Join Date: Nov 2009
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It took a little bit of time to figure out how you booked a OneWorld trip using UA MP!
But the baggage thing is a little complicated. Sometimes you don't see a correct baggage allowance across carriers (esp. non-alliance ones)... sometimes it's the status thing and sometimes it's IATA or USDoT that's nixing things up.
In your case assuming the allowance was stated correctly... and UK was a codeshare... then UA's allowance would apply. So if you don't have *G status and are flying Y - 1 bag is correct. AI might be offering a larger baggage allowance to connecting partners (since they offer the same on their US flights - including those connecting to UA/DL etc).
But this is good to know.
But the baggage thing is a little complicated. Sometimes you don't see a correct baggage allowance across carriers (esp. non-alliance ones)... sometimes it's the status thing and sometimes it's IATA or USDoT that's nixing things up.
In your case assuming the allowance was stated correctly... and UK was a codeshare... then UA's allowance would apply. So if you don't have *G status and are flying Y - 1 bag is correct. AI might be offering a larger baggage allowance to connecting partners (since they offer the same on their US flights - including those connecting to UA/DL etc).
But this is good to know.
The surprising thing was that the booking for both tickets were done from UA's website and the baggage allowance was shown in the itinerary on their website. This allowance changed depending on whether the domestic leg was on UK or AI and as the international legs were on the same flight (UA metal), that was surprising. As you note, usually on same ticket the intl leg allowance is allowed but this time, overall ticket allowance was changing between 1PC and 2PC's depending on whether domestic partner was AI or UK.
Ticket is for mom and she has no status and flying Y.