Devaluation! New award category changes effective 3/22
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Yeah, you and I both!
I suppose the one silver lining, for me anyway, is that when or *if* HK comes out of its deep freeze, I'd be amongst the first to visit and take advantage of these prices. Generally, as with all things, I tend to leave when the crowd shows up (becomes more popular) and head towards where they've just left (becoming out of fashion). Currently, both HK & China, I'd imagine, offers a great opportunity to visit, but equally frustration that they're closed.
TST for $70? As a Cat 4, perfect for those free night redemptions.
It's always been in the top 5 in the world? Not suggesting what others should do, but I'll probably allocate my Hyatt currency to burn in HK, China or SE Asia.
I suppose the one silver lining, for me anyway, is that when or *if* HK comes out of its deep freeze, I'd be amongst the first to visit and take advantage of these prices. Generally, as with all things, I tend to leave when the crowd shows up (becomes more popular) and head towards where they've just left (becoming out of fashion). Currently, both HK & China, I'd imagine, offers a great opportunity to visit, but equally frustration that they're closed.
TST for $70? As a Cat 4, perfect for those free night redemptions.
It's always been in the top 5 in the world? Not suggesting what others should do, but I'll probably allocate my Hyatt currency to burn in HK, China or SE Asia.
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The Hyatt Monterey is now playing games on awards- 4 night minimum for a summer weekend.
maybe its not new, but Im guessing they dont want all those cat1-4 certs.
maybe its not new, but Im guessing they dont want all those cat1-4 certs.
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More likely with other hotels going up in Cat nearby they assumed that foks will come to them instead and thusly are trying to KO those plans
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The category change is creating a rush to book hotels that are becoming cat 5, much stronger impact than on a points reservation.
they would not be having as big a rush if the change didnt render those certs unusable there.
they would not be having as big a rush if the change didnt render those certs unusable there.
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My Bad, I didnt know they were going up to a 5. I booked it with pts for a family member in April a month ago
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So, thoughts:
(1) Gild Hall was probably getting hammered with Cat 1-4 certs and ended up "crying uncle". Being the only Cat 4 in Manhattan would've left them exposed to getting hit by folks with those certs being able to roll up, use the certs, and (for Globalists, of which I suspect there are "more than normal" right now) get free parking. That said, I feel like this makes Manhattan a bit of a "hole" in the system in terms of viable properties.
(2) In the Orlando area...I'm disappointed by the increase in category for the HR OIA (that's been Cat 3 for as long as I can remember), but I approve of dropping the HP LBV down to Cat 2. Having frequented both hotels, I can say that from a pricing perspective they really did not belong in the same category (the HR is usually at or over $200/night while the HP LBV is quite often closer to $100-120/night...it can land higher, yes, but never in the $300 ballpark that the HR OIA could land at on occasion).
(3) I agree that Hyatt needs to make the Cat 1-7 cert a Cat 1-8 cert (and perhaps carve out an exemption for some of those FHR properties...honestly, just bin cert use at FHR properties and call it a day; those are interesting aspirational properties but at least from my point of view they're not really "there" for me).
(1) Gild Hall was probably getting hammered with Cat 1-4 certs and ended up "crying uncle". Being the only Cat 4 in Manhattan would've left them exposed to getting hit by folks with those certs being able to roll up, use the certs, and (for Globalists, of which I suspect there are "more than normal" right now) get free parking. That said, I feel like this makes Manhattan a bit of a "hole" in the system in terms of viable properties.
(2) In the Orlando area...I'm disappointed by the increase in category for the HR OIA (that's been Cat 3 for as long as I can remember), but I approve of dropping the HP LBV down to Cat 2. Having frequented both hotels, I can say that from a pricing perspective they really did not belong in the same category (the HR is usually at or over $200/night while the HP LBV is quite often closer to $100-120/night...it can land higher, yes, but never in the $300 ballpark that the HR OIA could land at on occasion).
(3) I agree that Hyatt needs to make the Cat 1-7 cert a Cat 1-8 cert (and perhaps carve out an exemption for some of those FHR properties...honestly, just bin cert use at FHR properties and call it a day; those are interesting aspirational properties but at least from my point of view they're not really "there" for me).
Last edited by GrayAnderson; Feb 17, 2022 at 12:12 pm
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(3) I agree that Hyatt needs to make the Cat 1-7 cert a Cat 1-8 cert (and perhaps carve out an exemption for some of those FHR properties...honestly, just bin cert use at FHR properties and call it a day; those are interesting aspirational properties but at least from my point of view they're not really "there" for me).
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