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World of Hyatt Credit Card benefit details and notes


Anniversary Free Night Award (Category 1-4)
  • Issued 10 weeks after cardmember anniversary date
  • Expires 1 year after issuance
  • Ineligible for use with Club Lounge Access Awards and Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards
Additional Free Night Award (Category 1-4) with $15k spend
  • The spend counter for this benefit tracks total cumulative purchases during the current calendar year (excluding $95 annual fee and any other non-qualifying transactions).
  • The spend counter for this benefit resets at the beginning of every calendar year. Chase does not make this spend counter visible to customers, so interested customers must calculate their own. Note that this is a separate spend counter from the "Two Additional Night Credits" spend counter below.
  • Issued 1-2 days after statement closing date of the triggering transaction (the transaction causing the spend counter to cross $15k)
  • Expires 1 year after issuance
  • Ineligible for use with Club Lounge Access Awards and Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards
  • Cardmembers are eligible for only 1 Additional Free Night Award per calendar year (e.g., spending $30k does not result in two Additional Free Night Awards
Two Additional Night Credits with every $5k spend
  • The spend counter for this benefit tracks total cumulative purchases since account opening (excluding $95 annual fee and any other non-qualifying transactions)
  • This spend counter never resets. Chase does not make this spend counter visible to customers, so interested customers must calculate their own. Note that this is a separate spend counter from the "Additional Free Night Award" spend counter above.
  • Issued 1-2 days after statement closing date of the triggering transaction (the transaction causing the spend counter to cross a multiple of $5k)
  • For World of Hyatt status qualification purposes, the night credits are associated with the TRANSACTION date of the triggering transaction, not the posting date and not the statement closing date. For example, triggering transactions on 12/31/2022 (transaction date) will result in 2 night credits for the 2022 status year, regardless of posting date or statement closing date. Based on FT reports, transaction date appears to be based on the US Eastern Time Zone.
  • World of Hyatt Credit Card: timing for $5k spend 2 qualifying nights
Other Benefits
  • 4 Bonus Points per $1 spent on purchases at Hyatt hotels
  • 2 Bonus Points per $1 spent on restaurants, airline tickets purchased directly from the airline, local transit and commuting, and fitness club and gym memberships
  • 1 Bonus Point per $1 spent on all other purchases
  • Discoverist status every year
  • 5 qualifying night credits every year
  • No foreign transaction fees
  • Travel & purchase coverage

Other notes and tips


Chase spending tracker
  • The Chase spending tracker is useful for calculating your spend counter for the $15k Additional Free Night Award and your spend counter for the Two Additional Night Credits
  • Chase mobile app: "View all transactions", then switch to the "Spending Summary" tab
  • Chase website: From the main page, on the right hand side, click the "Spending & Budgeting" menu, then choose "Spending Summary"
  • Remember to add spend from prior calendar year(s) as needed (see spend counter notes above), and to subtract $95 annual fee and any other non-qualifying transactions from all years
  • Full list of non-qualifying transactions: returns, refunds, balance transfers, cash advances, travelers checks, foreign currency, money orders, wire transfers or similar cash-like transactions, lottery tickets, casino gaming chips, race track wagers or similar betting transactions, any checks that access your account, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, and fees of any kind, including an annual fee

Sign-up bonus offer


Chase card overview and application page: Link

Current sign-up offer (as of Feb 1, 2022): Earn up to 60,000 Bonus Points
  • 30,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases in your first 3 months from account opening.
  • Plus, up to 30,000 More Bonus Points by earning 2 Bonus Points total per $1 spent in the first 6 months from account opening on purchases that normally earn 1 Bonus Point, on up to $15,000 spent.

Previous sign-up offer: Earn up to 50,000 Bonus Points and 10 Night Credits (last checked: Dec 22, 2020 - no mention of 10 night credits)
  • Earn 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Earn an additional 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases within the first 6 months of account opening.
  • Apply by December 31, 2020 and get 10 qualifying night credits towards your next tier status in 2020 and 2021.

Previous sign-up offer: Earn up to 50,000 Bonus Points (ended Apr 14, 2020)
  • Earn 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Earn an additional 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases (including first $3,000) within the first 6 months of account opening.

Previous sign-up offer: Earn up to 60,000 Bonus Points (ended Jan 9, 2019)
  • Earn 40,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Plus, earn an additional 20,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases (including first $3,000) within the first 6 months of account opening.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 10:52 am
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Some people now aren’t getting the anniversary night for a month or two after the AF posts, likely for the reason discussed above.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by joe_miami
Some people now aren’t getting the anniversary night for a month or two after the AF posts, likely for the reason discussed above.
Our FN has not been posted two months after anniversary date. I recall Ritz Carlton and Marriott Business cards post FNs quickly. But AmEx SPG cards have a long delay. I they the CCs play the game, so you can't keep the FN, call back to close the accounts and get AFs refunded.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 3:22 pm
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Only surprise is that it took banks this long to catch on. The anniversary night was never supposed to be a reward for making it to the 12-month mark.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by joe_miami
Only surprise is that it took banks this long to catch on. The anniversary night was never supposed to be a reward for making it to the 12-month mark.
Well, so many people churn the hotel cards. So CCs have to find some way to stop it. Sort of. Little impact if you plan to keep the cards. I prefer points though. Like the Radisson CC.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 4:36 pm
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Well, so many people churn the hotel cards. So CCs have to find some way to stop it. Sort of. Little impact if you plan to keep the cards. I prefer points though. Like the Radisson CC.
I agree with this. Free night certs suck, especially when restricted to low-end hotels. It seems like they are just punishing their best customers. They should just give a choice between a free night cert or 12k pts. 12k is the cat 3 price -- dropping one level below the max category seems like a fair tradeoff for the flexibility of no expiration and combinability with more pts for a higher end hotel.

Even if they offered 10k I'd probably take the pts.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
I agree with this. Free night certs suck, especially when restricted to low-end hotels. It seems like they are just punishing their best customers. They should just give a choice between a free night cert or 12k pts. 12k is the cat 3 price -- dropping one level below the max category seems like a fair tradeoff for the flexibility of no expiration and combinability with more pts for a higher end hotel.

Even if they offered 10k I'd probably take the pts.
Cat 4 Hyatts aren't "low end."
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by joe_miami
Cat 4 Hyatts aren't "low end."
Mid end? It really depends where you are. In less expensive places there are great cat 4s, but in many urban areas there are either none, or they are low end (because the mid ends are all cat 5+... eg the GH NY. The poster child for mid end hotels, but location makes it cat 6) To find a cat 1-4 hotel you need to go to the the HP in long island city, which is just not where I want to spend a vacation. If there was a cat 4 in midtown manhattan I shudder to think what it would be like.

Actually I like the Andaz San Deigo and Manchester GH San Diego a lot, so once these move to Cat 4 I'll have some much better options to use these things. But depending on your travel patterns, they can be very hard to use.

Imagine that someone has a lot of money and spends a weekend in NY once a month or so. They stay at the PH NY. They qualify for globalist off points some time early in the year. Maybe they take a few international trips, and stay at the PH Syndey or the GH or PH Tokyo. Maybe the PH Maldives once in a while. This qualifies as a "good customer". Certainly a high margin customer.

You are going to toss them Cat 1-4 certs? That's just insulting. At least give them 10k pts instead so they can use it towards a free night somewhere that they actually want to stay.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 6:25 pm
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Well, hotels are also driven by demand, not the quality of the hotel itself. Properties in big metro areas and resort places command premium over hotels in remote and low demand areas. So all the low, mid etc are relative.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 6:35 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
Mid end? It really depends where you are. In less expensive places there are great cat 4s, but in many urban areas there are either none, or they are low end (because the mid ends are all cat 5+... eg the GH NY. The poster child for mid end hotels, but location makes it cat 6) To find a cat 1-4 hotel you need to go to the the HP in long island city, which is just not where I want to spend a vacation. If there was a cat 4 in midtown manhattan I shudder to think what it would be like.

Actually I like the Andaz San Deigo and Manchester GH San Diego a lot, so once these move to Cat 4 I'll have some much better options to use these things. But depending on your travel patterns, they can be very hard to use.

Imagine that someone has a lot of money and spends a weekend in NY once a month or so. They stay at the PH NY. They qualify for globalist off points some time early in the year. Maybe they take a few international trips, and stay at the PH Syndey or the GH or PH Tokyo. Maybe the PH Maldives once in a while. This qualifies as a "good customer". Certainly a high margin customer.

You are going to toss them Cat 1-4 certs? That's just insulting. At least give them 10k pts instead so they can use it towards a free night somewhere that they actually want to stay.
People who "qualify for Globalist off points some time early in the year" aren't worried about this in the slightest. Let's be serious here. No rewards scheme is going to make everyone happy, but Hyatt has a lot more customers for whom a Cat 1-4 award is a nice incentive/reward than customers who simply won't lower themselves to staying at a Cat 1-4 within any given 6-month period.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by joe_miami
People who "qualify for Globalist off points some time early in the year" aren't worried about this in the slightest. Let's be serious here. No rewards scheme is going to make everyone happy, but Hyatt has a lot more customers for whom a Cat 1-4 award is a nice incentive/reward than customers who simply won't lower themselves to staying at a Cat 1-4 within any given 6-month period.
It's not like offering a choice of pts or cert would cost Hyatt much. And, again, depending on your travel patterns, there might just not be reasonable cat 1-4 options. This is especially true in major, expensive cities (where a lot of people do most of their traveling to). Location is important here. Even very average hotels in good locations tend to be higher category.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
It's not like offering a choice of pts or cert would cost Hyatt much. ...
It would likely cost Hyatt a lot, because people who choose the points a couple times so they can stay at a Cat 5+ are going to cost Hyatt a much bigger reimbursement than the average cost of the Cat 1-4 redemptions.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 8:02 pm
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This is what I received from Chase serve rep:

Thank you for contacting Chase. The anniversary night for the World of Hyatt credit card will be issued 10 weeks from 01/17, the anniversary date of the credit card. This would put you at receiving your anniversary night 03/28.

Nights are eligible for redemption for one year from the date it is deposited into your World of Hyatt member account. Please be aware that nights cannot be extended or reissued after their expiration.

It is absurd to take 10 weeks to post....
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by joe_miami
It would likely cost Hyatt a lot, because people who choose the points a couple times so they can stay at a Cat 5+ are going to cost Hyatt a much bigger reimbursement than the average cost of the Cat 1-4 redemptions.
You think that a cat 5 redemption costs them more than two cat 4 redemptions? If so, their pricing scheme doesn't make much sense (15k vs 20k)
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler
You think that a cat 5 redemption costs them more than two cat 4 redemptions? If so, their pricing scheme doesn't make much sense (15k vs 20k)
That’s not at all what I said, and if you’re really a gambler, one hopes you know that.
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Old Mar 14, 2019, 8:17 pm
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Then I have no idea what your point is. If a cat 5 redemption is worth less than 2 cat 4's then 10k pts should not cost them more than a cat 5 cert, unless they get a lot of value from people just letting the certs expire.
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