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World of Hyatt Credit Card benefit details and notes


Anniversary Free Night Award (Category 1-4)
  • Issued 10 weeks after cardmember anniversary date
  • Expires 1 year after issuance
  • Ineligible for use with Club Lounge Access Awards and Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards
Additional Free Night Award (Category 1-4) with $15k spend
  • The spend counter for this benefit tracks total cumulative purchases during the current calendar year (excluding $95 annual fee and any other non-qualifying transactions).
  • The spend counter for this benefit resets at the beginning of every calendar year. Chase does not make this spend counter visible to customers, so interested customers must calculate their own. Note that this is a separate spend counter from the "Two Additional Night Credits" spend counter below.
  • Issued 1-2 days after statement closing date of the triggering transaction (the transaction causing the spend counter to cross $15k)
  • Expires 1 year after issuance
  • Ineligible for use with Club Lounge Access Awards and Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards
  • Cardmembers are eligible for only 1 Additional Free Night Award per calendar year (e.g., spending $30k does not result in two Additional Free Night Awards
Two Additional Night Credits with every $5k spend
  • The spend counter for this benefit tracks total cumulative purchases since account opening (excluding $95 annual fee and any other non-qualifying transactions)
  • This spend counter never resets. Chase does not make this spend counter visible to customers, so interested customers must calculate their own. Note that this is a separate spend counter from the "Additional Free Night Award" spend counter above.
  • Issued 1-2 days after statement closing date of the triggering transaction (the transaction causing the spend counter to cross a multiple of $5k)
  • For World of Hyatt status qualification purposes, the night credits are associated with the TRANSACTION date of the triggering transaction, not the posting date and not the statement closing date. For example, triggering transactions on 12/31/2022 (transaction date) will result in 2 night credits for the 2022 status year, regardless of posting date or statement closing date. Based on FT reports, transaction date appears to be based on the US Eastern Time Zone.
  • World of Hyatt Credit Card: timing for $5k spend 2 qualifying nights
Other Benefits
  • 4 Bonus Points per $1 spent on purchases at Hyatt hotels
  • 2 Bonus Points per $1 spent on restaurants, airline tickets purchased directly from the airline, local transit and commuting, and fitness club and gym memberships
  • 1 Bonus Point per $1 spent on all other purchases
  • Discoverist status every year
  • 5 qualifying night credits every year
  • No foreign transaction fees
  • Travel & purchase coverage

Other notes and tips


Chase spending tracker
  • The Chase spending tracker is useful for calculating your spend counter for the $15k Additional Free Night Award and your spend counter for the Two Additional Night Credits
  • Chase mobile app: "View all transactions", then switch to the "Spending Summary" tab
  • Chase website: From the main page, on the right hand side, click the "Spending & Budgeting" menu, then choose "Spending Summary"
  • Remember to add spend from prior calendar year(s) as needed (see spend counter notes above), and to subtract $95 annual fee and any other non-qualifying transactions from all years
  • Full list of non-qualifying transactions: returns, refunds, balance transfers, cash advances, travelers checks, foreign currency, money orders, wire transfers or similar cash-like transactions, lottery tickets, casino gaming chips, race track wagers or similar betting transactions, any checks that access your account, interest, unauthorized or fraudulent charges, and fees of any kind, including an annual fee

Sign-up bonus offer


Chase card overview and application page: Link

Current sign-up offer (as of Feb 1, 2022): Earn up to 60,000 Bonus Points
  • 30,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases in your first 3 months from account opening.
  • Plus, up to 30,000 More Bonus Points by earning 2 Bonus Points total per $1 spent in the first 6 months from account opening on purchases that normally earn 1 Bonus Point, on up to $15,000 spent.

Previous sign-up offer: Earn up to 50,000 Bonus Points and 10 Night Credits (last checked: Dec 22, 2020 - no mention of 10 night credits)
  • Earn 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Earn an additional 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases within the first 6 months of account opening.
  • Apply by December 31, 2020 and get 10 qualifying night credits towards your next tier status in 2020 and 2021.

Previous sign-up offer: Earn up to 50,000 Bonus Points (ended Apr 14, 2020)
  • Earn 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Earn an additional 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases (including first $3,000) within the first 6 months of account opening.

Previous sign-up offer: Earn up to 60,000 Bonus Points (ended Jan 9, 2019)
  • Earn 40,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Plus, earn an additional 20,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases (including first $3,000) within the first 6 months of account opening.
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 6:30 pm
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Originally Posted by WantOnlinePoker
Partners, such as MGM and SLH, won't give you 4x. Only true Hyatt hotels.
OK, thanks. I guess these should go on the Sapphire Reserve card then!
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Old Feb 16, 2019, 6:45 pm
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OK, thanks. I guess these should go on the Sapphire Reserve card then!
Or an Amex card if you are trying to some money back or MR points from the on-going Amex offers they have for MGM Resorts in Vegas.
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Old Feb 20, 2019, 9:57 pm
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Originally Posted by ERQTraveler
I want to upgrade my Hyatt CC to WOH CC. My anniversary date is in March 2019. I spoke I with a Chase rep last night who said that I would NOT get the anniversary free night if I upgraded now (before the anniversary date on my "old" Hyatt CC) and suggested that I wait to upgrade until after my anniversary date so as not to lose the free night award. Does that sound right?

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Wouldn't you be better off waiting until your anni night posts, then cancelling the old Hyatt and re-applying for the WOH card? Then you can also get the 50K sign-up bonus.

I'm thinking of doing the same myself in June. Is there any reason I can't do that? How long do I need to wait after cancelling the old card to apply for the new one?
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 1:33 am
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Originally Posted by bbriscoe34
Wouldn't you be better off waiting until your anni night posts, then cancelling the old Hyatt and re-applying for the WOH card? Then you can also get the 50K sign-up bonus.

I'm thinking of doing the same myself in June. Is there any reason I can't do that? How long do I need to wait after cancelling the old card to apply for the new one?
I waited 5 days.
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 9:32 am
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Contactless

I just noticed now the card has contactless, which my card issued last year does not have. That should be quite useful for travel in Europe where chip+sign annoys every time and makes me use Apple Pay instead.

Not sure if Chase will replace the card at some point before expiration, but I'm tempted to call for free replacement..
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Old Feb 21, 2019, 11:14 am
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how is contactless secure? Couldn't someone hide a chip reader under your butt in the train seat and skim money off your cards?
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Old Feb 22, 2019, 7:11 am
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"While smart phone applications that enable the phone to read some of the data from a contactless enabled card or device do exist, they can only read the account number and expiration date. Plus, the thief would need to be physically close to the card in order to get this information."

https://newsroom.mastercard.com/2018...ss-security-2/

However, I believe Apple Pay is more secure because the phone sends a single-use token, i.e. a number sequence, to the payment terminal, and the terminal verifies the token. This means that the actual card details are not used at all during the payment.
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Old Feb 22, 2019, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by edcho
"While smart phone applications that enable the phone to read some of the data from a contactless enabled card or device do exist, they can only read the account number and expiration date. Plus, the thief would need to be physically close to the card in order to get this information."

https://newsroom.mastercard.com/2018...ss-security-2/

However, I believe Apple Pay is more secure because the phone sends a single-use token, i.e. a number sequence, to the payment terminal, and the terminal verifies the token. This means that the actual card details are not used at all during the payment.
That site is just marketing. Of course Mastercard is going to claim that it's secure. Everything claims that it's secure until they suffer a large breach.

In particular this statement:

When a contactless transaction takes place the card or device provides the reader with a dynamic, one-time-only number that uniquely and securely identifies each specific transaction.It would be extremely difficult for a fraudster to copy the advanced encryption technology that is used to generate this dynamic number and create a functioning counterfeit version of a contactless card.

is disturbing and shows a lack of understanding of basic security principles (difficulty in implementing an algorithm is not security)
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 3:04 am
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Earn an extra free night at any Category 1-4 Hyatt hotel or resort if you spend $15,000 during your cardmember anniversary year.
Quick question - does this above term mean I can get the free night cert even in the first year of owning the card, by spending $15,000? I am confused by the term cardmember anniversary year - is that just Chase's way of differentiating calendar year from the 12 month period between annual fee payments?
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 am
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Recently approved for the WOH card, working on my min spend.

My question is this:
What's the easiest/most efficient way to reach globalist (for someone who isn't out on the road all the time)?
I've heard several different answers about how much ms it would take, ranging from 70k with mattress runs, to a full 140k, with stuff in between depending on what certs/nights count, etc. All the permutations make my head hurt lol.
Does anybody have a simple path to get there?

Apologies if this has been thoroughly answered, I've combed through the thread but hadn't seen a definitive answer.

Thanks in advance!
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 6:47 am
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Originally Posted by Enigma368
Quick question - does this above term mean I can get the free night cert even in the first year of owning the card, by spending $15,000? I am confused by the term cardmember anniversary year - is that just Chase's way of differentiating calendar year from the 12 month period between annual fee payments?
Yes you can. Anniversary Year is one year starting when you were approved for the card, and so on every year after.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by j_diggs
Recently approved for the WOH card, working on my min spend.

My question is this:
What's the easiest/most efficient way to reach globalist (for someone who isn't out on the road all the time)?
I've heard several different answers about how much ms it would take, ranging from 70k with mattress runs, to a full 140k, with stuff in between depending on what certs/nights count, etc. All the permutations make my head hurt lol.
Does anybody have a simple path to get there?
If you do not stay with Hyatt for much, what the Globe benefits do for you?? Probably not even worth your efforts.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 9:30 am
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Originally Posted by j_diggs
Recently approved for the WOH card, working on my min spend.

My question is this:
What's the easiest/most efficient way to reach globalist (for someone who isn't out on the road all the time)?
I've heard several different answers about how much ms it would take, ranging from 70k with mattress runs, to a full 140k, with stuff in between depending on what certs/nights count, etc. All the permutations make my head hurt lol.
Does anybody have a simple path to get there?

Apologies if this has been thoroughly answered, I've combed through the thread but hadn't seen a definitive answer.

Thanks in advance!
Getting a rigidly accurate number takes a lot of calculation and various assumptions. Some of these numbers may be approximate. But I can give you an idea easily.

Hyatt credit card gets you 5 nights a year just for having it. You need 60 nights for Globalist. So you need 55 more.

Spend $5000 on the Hyatt card (on anything) and get 2 nights' status. Do that 27.5 times, $137,500 for 55 nights. Add whatever your spend is costing you in fees. This is a worst-case scenario.

But that would generate 137,500 Hyatt points. There is a promo right now for a 1500 rebate at Hyatt Place/House per night and those nights count for status. So if you are willing to burn your points at a cat 1, it would take less spend.

$80K spend on Hyatt CC gets you 80K Hyatt points. That's 32 status nights from the card. Cash in the 80K points for 16 nights at 5000 points (cat 1) for 16 more status nights. That's 48 nights. Get rebated 16x1500 = 24000. That's 5 more nights plus 7500 back. That's 1 more plus.

32+16+5+1=54. Pretty close to 55, and remember you get a cat 1-4 night at $15K CC spend and another when you get to Globalist and another cat 1-4 annually. So around $80K (actually a bit less) on Hyatt CC plus fees on the MS (perhaps $12 per $1000 with $500 V/MCs or $960, plus MO fees if applicable).

Simon Mall charges less ($8 per $1000), but consider if you buy those GCs at a grocery store you might get fuel points worth quite a lot (check Kroger).

But if you have certain grandfathered Ink cards for Chase, you get 5x UR per dollar at office supply stores. Spend $40K on $200 V/MC, get 200K UR, transfer to Hyatt 1:1, spend as above @ 5000, get 40 status nights. Get 60000 back from the promo, spend those, get 12 more nights, get back 12x1500 = 18000, spend those, get 3+.

40+12+3 = 55. There you are, almost.

So a bit over $40K on a grandfathered Ink card plus fees on the MS (perhaps $35 per $1000 with $200 V/MCs or $1400, plus MO fees if applicable).

And Officemax/Depot/Staples often run rebates on the GC fees. Sometimes you can even make money plus 5x UR.

There are many ways to spend less (Staples $300 Visa GC online for $9 fee, for example; Simon Mall as mentioned, etc.) and some super-secret ones no one wants to discuss, and I am not sure these qualify as "easy," but these are obvious and will give you a couple ideas to play with.
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Old Feb 28, 2019, 6:35 pm
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If you want to full mattress run it, it relies on having a Cat 1 nearby. At least you can stack it with the promos they tend to have where if you stay x nights you get y points. Regardless, the cheapest Cat 1 near me is about 90 dollars a night. That is not a good deal if it's a full run unless combined with a promo.

However, maybe you stay 20 nights or do have a lot of spend on the card. Then mattress running the remainder COULD be viable if you really make use of all the benefits and count the suite upgrades as actual value via suite price - base room price = value you got.
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Old Mar 3, 2019, 2:56 pm
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Thanks for the incredible response toomanybooks! That makes things much more clear. I don't have a grandfathered Ink, but am debating PC'ing one of my CIPs to an Ink cash with the recent sad 3x news. There's a cat 1 about 30 min from me here, but moving to Nashville in July and look to be several Hyatt's in the area, but only Cat 1s are a little outside the city.

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