serpens

What does that mean?

1. An Explorist gets to enter a lounge four times.

2. An Explorist gets to enter a lounge unlimited times during four stays.

3. An Explorist and the registered occupants of his or her room get to enter a lounge four times.

4. An Explorist and the registered occupants of his or her room get to enter a lounge unlimited times during four stays.

That's a broad range of experiences.

Kacee

They're way less desirable. Which is a big part of why I bailed. Not willing to regularly stay in HP/HH when I travel, would rather stay in the full service Marriott up the street.

Not criticizing your lesser standards, it just isn't worth it to me personally.

It means what common sense suggests it means. You can redeem (subject to availability) for club lounge access on four stays. You're then subject to the property's club access rules, hours, etc.

CloudCoder

From reading this thread, it appears that some folks would be happier with further subdivisions of Globalist:

1. Stayed 60 cheap nights, on my own dime.
2. Stayed 60 nights, some cheap and some expensive, all on my own dime.
3. Stayed 100 cheap nights, on my own dime.
4. Stayed 100 nights, some cheap and some expensive, on my own dime.
5. Stayed 60 cheap nights, on expense account.
6. Stayed 60 nights, some cheap and some expensive, on expense account.
7. Stayed 100 cheap nights, on expense account.
8. Stayed 100 nights, some cheap and some expensive, on expense account.
9. And the ultimate highest level of all time: Paid FAR more than I needed to pay, for every stay, in order to impress folks in the lower categories, who will surely admire me for the sheer magnitude of my overspending. Now, if you don't mind, I'll take my rightful place in the queue: directly in front of you.

The paradox is that if you're really filthy rich, then why oh why would you even care how highly you're regarded by us deplorables?

Hotel Points Guy

I tend to agree. The cookie cutter uniformity of most Hyatt Places does get old after a while. I tend to avoid them when traveling with my family because I really dislike how (in many cases) the sink is located outside the shower and bathroom area. When I'm by myself, I can care less; but when others are present, it's nice to have some additional privacy with a sink located behind a door. In fact, I'm traveling with my family now and typing this from a Hampton Inn. There's a Hyatt Place literally across the street, but the whole sink and bathroom setup makes it a non-starter for me when shopping for hotels with my family.

OsakaWino

You don't happen to sell shower curtain rings perchance?

Mary2e

Has anyone been able to get confirmation regarding suite upgrades?

jacobguo

I would be happier only if 1-4 is moved ahead of 5-8

Boraxo

I asked the same question. I didn't see anything relevant in the T&Cs.

This statement summarizes my experience, but YMMV. Making people use all 4 nights would leave them short on a weeklong vacation stay, and I can't imagine that was the intention. It would be similar to offering 1 night suite upgrade certs and kicking you out when your time is up. That interpretation makes no sense.

Forever in Seattle

I will be surprised if they bother. Apart from using up points and suite upgrades before they reset at the end of Feb earlier in the year, I since then I haven't set foot in a Hyatt. Shame, as I really enjoy visiting some of their properties, but there are sod all around Europe, I wasn't going to be spending much time this year in the US and so given my business to Hilton. Not as good as Hyatt, but they do look after you as a Diamond.

kapeed

Do you have to pay for the hotel stay using Hyatt Credit card to qualify for the promo? I am thinking of signing up for Hyatt CC but I have to use Corporate card for my hotel stays. Thanks in advance!

ZBigFam

with SPG offering a 2X bonus on stays - 1 stay = 2 stays i think there is going to be major push to secure elites coming into next year.

I don't know if this is good news or bad news for us...

LASUA1K

Thank you Hyatt! I'm the bozo that decided to go all in and earn 60 nights this year, and now you allow anyone to do it with 20 nights in 3 months. Absolutely shows that they were coming up short with people to maintain status.

And NO, I haven't been upgraded. A corner room isn't an upgrade.

The smallest state

Hyatt has outdone themselves this time. They've managed to p*ss off.......well.....EVERYBODY who is a frequent stayer.

For starters there are the (numerous) people like myself. Used to bounce between a Plat/Diamond every year and received great benefits. GP is scuttled and WOH takes over, I am done chasing status. Not worth it with WOH. Became a free agent.

Well lets say Hyatt entices us back with this new fasttrack to status plan. This says you will be a Glob but wait...........

That sounds a lot like Glob light to me. So this crowd will be not impressed.


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Then there are the people that earned Globs the regular way. Stayed 60 nights to get the benefits. They aren't happy because they now compete for 'benefits' with a larger pool of people.

Any time your best customers feel like they received a kick in the teeth, that's probably not the intention of the "promotion"

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Then there are the people outside the US and Canada.
Obviously the Hyatt footprint needs some expansion, notwithstanding some great hotels abroad.


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The worst reaction of any customer.............capitulation. They've given up on anything good coming from the company and are resigned to the continual devaluation.

This could speak to the fact this promo is indicative that WOH is in a death spiral or it could speak to the fact that this promo might make Hyatt realize that WOH should be in a death spiral.


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When capitulation sets in and others get for 1/3rd what you've worked hard to get, you consider the competition. Back in the GP days, that would be unthinkable. The Marriott vs Hyatt points value was so wide that only a fool would choose a comparable Marriott if a comparable Hyatt was nearby. Now, rather than Marriott/SPG pulling the guest in, incredibly, Hyatt seems to be pushing them....




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Long time customers, brand promoters and (the most valuable of customers) people who would stay at a Hyatt despite other brands being more convenient have run the gauntlet from disbelieve to anger.

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As a direct fact of the WOH rollout, I became a Marriott and Hilton leaning free agent. As such I now will only stay internationally, while domestically the San Francisco HR, the Vancouver HR and the DFW HR, get my business, strictly out of value and convenience. Bizarrely, this promo will work for me as I have some nights coming up in Vancouver.


So I will be one of the winners in this. However, going back to point number 1, I will be a Paper Globalist. I will have a nice, ummmmm, actually not so nice, card that says I am a Globalist. No free night. No 4 Suite Upgrades. So I get a bottle of water and a breakfast in the lounge.


I actually had a fairly good conversation with a FD Manager who stated quite up front that the WOH has been their largest single complaint since roll out. They have received surveys from guests after stays that give the property a 10 across the board, however the WOH got zeros. The feedback is being heard, however the company also got much 'feedback' from the franchise owners who thought the perks they were doling out were impacting the bottom line.


TL-DR - Current Globs are not happy. Promoted Globs will not be happy with less than Glob. I am a rare beneficiary in this.

Mary2e

I asked around and the only way to get TSU & free night awards is for 60 nights.

It appears they will get everything else though.

hailstorm

The promotion period starts today, so somebody should soon be able to clarify whether Globalist benefits are available during the period (though I'm certain the answer is "no")