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Old Feb 6, 2020, 10:58 pm
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It is now Friday afternoon and the Government has yet to announce precisely how the quarantine on those coming from the Mainland will be implemented starting tomorrow.

I think this reasonably suggests that there's going to be great confusion at the border in the first days as the practicalities are worked out.

The message is: if you're coming to Hong Kong from the Mainland after tonight, wait a few days until the procedures stabilise.This includes entry by both land and air.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 4:56 am
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Originally Posted by tentseller
Never signed up for any of these notices. I am with 3HK
Me also. Just got this:

”【DoH】COMPULSORY Home Quarantine from Feb 8 for all new arrivals in Hong Kong who have visited Mainland in past 14 days (DO NOT REPLY)”
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It is now Friday afternoon and the Government has yet to announce precisely how the quarantine on those coming from the Mainland will be implemented starting tomorrow.

I think this reasonably suggests that there's going to be great confusion at the border in the first days as the practicalities are worked out.

The message is: if you're coming to Hong Kong from the Mainland after tonight, wait a few days until the procedures stabilise.This includes entry by both land and air.
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...-segregate-all and NowTV (segment not yet uploaded, I'm summarising the live feed)

Mainland entry cases coming in tomorrow won’t have wrist straps in the first instance (I don’t think Govt can come up with that many). Only AWOLs will get straps.

It’ll be akin to TW’s: mandatory home self quarantine
Govt will call self-quarantined (govt recruiting retired civil servants, work at home civil servants and final year medical students to do the calling) and visit some of them randomly
If they go AWOL law enforcement will look for them.
HK residents to self-quarantine themselves at home, visitors at hotel or Govt quarantine centres
Cannot leave til end of 14 day quarantine

NowTV interviewed a med student who’s concerned there’s no provisions to examine the self-quarantined
But in all honesty I think HK’s self-quarantine measures mirror Taiwan’s - they don’t do more than put people under orders and call them up.

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Me also. Just got this:

”【DoH】COMPULSORY Home Quarantine from Feb 8 for all new arrivals in Hong Kong who have visited Mainland in past 14 days (DO NOT REPLY)”
How would one enforce this? While I'm sure many will comply, I can also imagine many would just ignore it.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 5:25 am
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As I said before, if they follow the SARS approach, there will be a notice in the lift lobby alerting all residents there's a quarantine case in the block. It won't identify the flat, but you can be sure everyone will quickly know it. So there'll be eyes everywhere. As well, HK residential blocks have a 24-hour guard, and usually CCTV in the lift that's recorded. And then there are the cleaning people and household helpers who gossip.

Not all that much privacy in Hong Kong, really.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 5:29 am
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As I said before, if they follow the SARS approach, there will be a notice in the lift lobby alerting all residents there's a quarantine case in the block. It won't identify the flat, but you can be sure everyone will quickly know it. So there'll be eyes everywhere. As well, HK residential blocks have a 24-hour guard, and usually CCTV in the lift that's recorded. And then there are the cleaning people and household helpers who gossip.

Not all that much privacy in Hong Kong, really.
Yet on NowTV there's a woman in an infected block complaining she doesn't know which floor the home quarantined is on. Complete doxxing.

Here’s the piece

有住戶不滿政府不公布家居檢疫人士居住樓層
http://news.now.com/home/local/playe...59&refer=Share

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Old Feb 7, 2020, 5:35 am
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Just wait just wait. Those visitors from who-knows-what Government department will be a tip-off.

Myself, I'd rather stay in a hotel than deal with my neighbours if a family member were quarantined. Because they're going to regard everyone living in that flat as tainted.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 7:33 am
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It's hard to see how calling someone to verify a mandatory quarantine is foolproof. Someone else, similar in age and gender and ability to speak Chinese/English, could answer the phone even if it's enabled for GPS tracking.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 7:36 am
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I think the Government being the Government is relying on the threat of fine and imprisonment and resulting shameful picture in the papers to do the job. They'll make an example of some poor schmuck early on.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 9:26 am
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People’s Congress and Political Consultative haven’t been called off

HK has representatives to both. Local pro-PRC bigwigs

They’re all theoretically subject to quarantine when they come back

【政情】建制憂開兩會後須強制檢疫 北京促每日匯報健康情況

http://news.now.com/home/local/playe...61&refer=Share
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 9:36 am
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This is why I'd like to see the text of the rules, which so far as I can tell hasn't been published yet, even though the rules are now in effect. I'm going to guess there's some sort of VIP loophole in there. At a minimum, the Liaison Office would insist on one for its own people.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 10:17 am
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Originally Posted by 889
This is why I'd like to see the text of the rules, which so far as I can tell hasn't been published yet, even though the rules are now in effect. I'm going to guess there's some sort of VIP loophole in there. At a minimum, the Liaison Office would insist on one for its own people.
Now that I’ve read the Gazette, they’ll probably get an exemption:

https://www.gld.gov.hk/egazette/pdf/...2020240612.pdf



Coronavirus: travellers from mainland China face jail if they defy new Hong Kong quarantine measures as thousands rush to cross border before Saturday
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...hina-face-jail



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Old Feb 7, 2020, 10:33 am
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Thank you for posting that! Obviously the VIP loophole is there.

There's not much on how home quarantine will work, though.
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Old Feb 7, 2020, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith
Me also. Just got this:

”【DoH】COMPULSORY Home Quarantine from Feb 8 for all new arrivals in Hong Kong who have visited Mainland in past 14 days (DO NOT REPLY)”
So some carriers are sending them out. Wonder if there is some kind of law that permits the government to send these in the name of public safety or security?
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