[ARCHIVE to 2019] Conrad London St. James {GBR}
#781
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: norwich, uk
Programs: hhonors diamond
Posts: 5,397
Bankside has been my go-to until this last trip. I do really appreciate their lounge when I have time to use it. Lately I've noticed that their rates have gone up quite a bit-- on this last trip, I was getting the same rate at both the Bankside and Conrad. Both good choices (for me, at least) going forward...
#782
Join Date: May 2003
Location: USA
Programs: AA Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, BA Avios, Delta Skymiles
Posts: 364
I booked this hotel for 2019 Spring Break for 7 nights on points - Standard room. I emailed hotel reservations and asked what the complimentary Diamond upgrade would be and was told Deluxe room. They offered a pre-arranged upgrade to One Bedroom Duplex Suite as a Diamond member for 160 GBP/night. I went ahead and booked it. It shows up in my reservation on the Hilton website with that upgraded room. I stayed at Waldorf Astoria Rome Cavalieri on a previous Spring Break trip on points and had a standard room which was upgraded to the Vista Suite upon arrival at NO CHARGE. I was pleasantly surprise. I believe this was a triple level upgrade! Does this Conrad London St. James ever upgrade like that? Should I wait to not commit paying for that suite upgrade? It's a savings of over $1,400!
#783
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: DCA
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, UA Silver
Posts: 1,366
I booked this hotel for 2019 Spring Break for 7 nights on points - Standard room. I emailed hotel reservations and asked what the complimentary Diamond upgrade would be and was told Deluxe room. They offered a pre-arranged upgrade to One Bedroom Duplex Suite as a Diamond member for 160 GBP/night. I went ahead and booked it. It shows up in my reservation on the Hilton website with that upgraded room. I stayed at Waldorf Astoria Rome Cavalieri on a previous Spring Break trip on points and had a standard room which was upgraded to the Vista Suite upon arrival at NO CHARGE. I was pleasantly surprise. I believe this was a triple level upgrade! Does this Conrad London St. James ever upgrade like that? Should I wait to not commit paying for that suite upgrade? It's a savings of over $1,400!
#784
Join Date: May 2003
Location: USA
Programs: AA Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, BA Avios, Delta Skymiles
Posts: 364
They responded to my email that they cannot guarantee any upgrade until arrival so reserving with commitment to pay is the only way to confirm. I am still getting an incredible deal, IMO.
#785
Join Date: May 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 207
Have upcoming London trip in June 2019. Trying to decide between this and Bankside (as it seems to be heavily favored on here). I like Conrad because the location would be "new" to me, as I stayed at Hampton Inn Waterloo last year. A lot of my plans are above the river. But I do recall transportation around the city is excellent, and it wouldn't be a deal breaker to commute from Bankside. The only other reason I would prefer Conrad is just to say I've stayed at this particular brand. Been at several Hiltons, but if the quality isn't that different in terms of service/concierge/lounge/breakfast, I wouldn't mind saving 10k points. The rest of my stay will be using weekend certificates.
Any recent input as to which one I should lean towards?
(Waldorf is an option too, but they don't have availability currently for standard reward rooms).
Any recent input as to which one I should lean towards?
(Waldorf is an option too, but they don't have availability currently for standard reward rooms).
#786
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 284
Conrad if you prefer the more traditional style hotel, with a little bit more class and service. The bankside if you want edgy design in a cool part of town. Both have good lounges.
#787
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: IAH
Programs: HH Diamond, Bonvoy something
Posts: 126
No experience with Bankside, but definitely Conrad over Waldorf. Conrad is in better shape with larger rooms and closer access to tube station. Waldorf rooms cramped and dated.
#788
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: norwich, uk
Programs: hhonors diamond
Posts: 5,397
Have upcoming London trip in June 2019. Trying to decide between this and Bankside (as it seems to be heavily favored on here). I like Conrad because the location would be "new" to me, as I stayed at Hampton Inn Waterloo last year. A lot of my plans are above the river. But I do recall transportation around the city is excellent, and it wouldn't be a deal breaker to commute from Bankside. The only other reason I would prefer Conrad is just to say I've stayed at this particular brand. Been at several Hiltons, but if the quality isn't that different in terms of service/concierge/lounge/breakfast, I wouldn't mind saving 10k points. The rest of my stay will be using weekend certificates.
Any recent input as to which one I should lean towards?
(Waldorf is an option too, but they don't have availability currently for standard reward rooms).
Any recent input as to which one I should lean towards?
(Waldorf is an option too, but they don't have availability currently for standard reward rooms).
Bankside is usually a little cheaper too.
#789
Join Date: Jun 2018
Programs: HIlton Diamond, Delta , Southwest, Amex Corp Plat, AA
Posts: 184
They are both very good Hilton’s, probably the best in London......myself I prefer Bankside as it has a great gym and pool/jacuzzi...... however I think the lounge at the Conrad probably has the edge, it’s certainly more Executive than Bankside but Bankside is stil very good.
Bankside is usually a little cheaper too.
Bankside is usually a little cheaper too.
#790
Ambassador: World of Hyatt
Join Date: Apr 2000
Location: San Diego,CA
Posts: 10,091
Hilton Bankside hands down for this Diamond since 1995
Caring team for the most part including all front of house team members
No putrid smell in lobby from overuse of scent
Excellent lounge superior offerings to Conrad better pastry chef
Superior restaurant
Above average Diamond recognition when upgrades are available
Excellent approachable GM
I'm there for a week in April
If Bankside were more I would pay more for it than the Conrad
I found the Conrad to be greedy except for the Diamond breakfast benefit
Conrad London started as a InterContinental and the culture was extremely hard for them to change to a Hilton brand where there is a higher expectation for lounge access upgrades breakfast etc
IHG gave the hotel more outs to not be generous.
Though I have had decent stays at the Conrad there has almost always been a problem as a fair amount of their rooms and suites have noise problems from the street
While the Conrad is still a reasonably good choice its just not a great one.Ive saved a lot avoiding the property and haven't been back now in a few years after discovering Bankside
I like the rooms better too @ Bankside
Caring team for the most part including all front of house team members
No putrid smell in lobby from overuse of scent
Excellent lounge superior offerings to Conrad better pastry chef
Superior restaurant
Above average Diamond recognition when upgrades are available
Excellent approachable GM
I'm there for a week in April
If Bankside were more I would pay more for it than the Conrad
I found the Conrad to be greedy except for the Diamond breakfast benefit
Conrad London started as a InterContinental and the culture was extremely hard for them to change to a Hilton brand where there is a higher expectation for lounge access upgrades breakfast etc
IHG gave the hotel more outs to not be generous.
Though I have had decent stays at the Conrad there has almost always been a problem as a fair amount of their rooms and suites have noise problems from the street
While the Conrad is still a reasonably good choice its just not a great one.Ive saved a lot avoiding the property and haven't been back now in a few years after discovering Bankside
I like the rooms better too @ Bankside
Last edited by 777 global mile hound; Feb 27, 2019 at 3:43 pm
#791
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: norwich, uk
Programs: hhonors diamond
Posts: 5,397
No I have not stayed there, I’ve popped in for a coffee and it certainly looks nice!
#792
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Dante's 6th Circle
Programs: British Airways, Hilton Hhonors, Avis, Hertz
Posts: 80
Very poor for HH benefits though. They seem to follow the rules to the T.
The check-in area is a little odd and the process was laborious...Despite not being anywhere near full, I had to wait for a good 45 minutes in the bar. They did issue some drink coupons, but still.
Also the breakfast experience was not impressive. Firstly as a Diamond it's strictly continental (of which there was little to choose from) with an up-charge if you want a hot breakfast.
I opted for the hot, which took 25 minutes to arrive and when it did, it was cold... :-/
They were good enough to not charge me, but I'd rather have my food hot! I'd be more understanding if they were swamped, but there were maybe half a dozen tables occupied.
#793
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Dante's 6th Circle
Programs: British Airways, Hilton Hhonors, Avis, Hertz
Posts: 80
Have upcoming London trip in June 2019. Trying to decide between this and Bankside (as it seems to be heavily favored on here). I like Conrad because the location would be "new" to me, as I stayed at Hampton Inn Waterloo last year. A lot of my plans are above the river. But I do recall transportation around the city is excellent, and it wouldn't be a deal breaker to commute from Bankside. The only other reason I would prefer Conrad is just to say I've stayed at this particular brand. Been at several Hiltons, but if the quality isn't that different in terms of service/concierge/lounge/breakfast, I wouldn't mind saving 10k points. The rest of my stay will be using weekend certificates.
Any recent input as to which one I should lean towards?
(Waldorf is an option too, but they don't have availability currently for standard reward rooms).
Any recent input as to which one I should lean towards?
(Waldorf is an option too, but they don't have availability currently for standard reward rooms).
Having said that, I do like the Conrad's location and it's proximity to the Tube station, but again Bankside is not a long walk from the underground either.
I do think they are nicer than the Walrdorf, but I do have a rather sentimental soft spot for it, which is why I'll be back there in a couple of weeks! ;-)
#794
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 284
I had a stay a couple months ago...The hard product is very nice and the location speaks for itself.
Very poor for HH benefits though. They seem to follow the rules to the T.
The check-in area is a little odd and the process was laborious...Despite not being anywhere near full, I had to wait for a good 45 minutes in the bar. They did issue some drink coupons, but still.
Also the breakfast experience was not impressive. Firstly as a Diamond it's strictly continental (of which there was little to choose from) with an up-charge if you want a hot breakfast.
I opted for the hot, which took 25 minutes to arrive and when it did, it was cold... :-/
They were good enough to not charge me, but I'd rather have my food hot! I'd be more understanding if they were swamped, but there were maybe half a dozen tables occupied.
Very poor for HH benefits though. They seem to follow the rules to the T.
The check-in area is a little odd and the process was laborious...Despite not being anywhere near full, I had to wait for a good 45 minutes in the bar. They did issue some drink coupons, but still.
Also the breakfast experience was not impressive. Firstly as a Diamond it's strictly continental (of which there was little to choose from) with an up-charge if you want a hot breakfast.
I opted for the hot, which took 25 minutes to arrive and when it did, it was cold... :-/
They were good enough to not charge me, but I'd rather have my food hot! I'd be more understanding if they were swamped, but there were maybe half a dozen tables occupied.
#795
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: DL PM; IHG PlatAmb; Hilton Dia; Marriott Plat; Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,321