Consolidated "Best Strategies for Receiving an Upgrade" thread
#287
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 416
Agree with Wally, plus one addendum - have a dummy booking queued you in the app when you walk to the desk. Like for your exact nights, with results showing. That way you have what is needed to call them out when they pull the “We are booked solid” line - “Oh really, that is interesting, I see five categories of suites for sale on the nights I’ll be staying.” It isn’t the friendliest approach, but neither is them lying to you. It often leads to an embarrassed agent, a discussion with a manager, and an upgrade.
Most of the tips you will receive cut across status upgrades in all hotel chains.
Have the app available rooms ready to show them should they say nothing is available
If they say the app is broken or not updated, I always ask what will happen if I buy this higher class room?
I usually buy one level below what I want, when they say the category above mine is sold out, I push for the next level or a refund to the lower category.
If they give a fake upgrade, perhaps the same room on a higher floor or a category that they do not sell on the app, ask for the GM to call you ( get details) when he/she gets in. That always seems to get them motivated. In the few times I actually met with the GM , I always was successful in both the upgrade and having that ongoing contact to call if any issues come up in the future.
Don't feel embarrassed asking for your Diamond benefits, they set the rules not you.
Last edited by elusive1; Jan 2, 2020 at 2:31 pm
#288
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Mexico City
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold, IHG Silver, Choice Platinum, Wyndham Gold
Posts: 3,850
Also, longer duration stays have an exponentially lower chance of getting an upgrade.
1 night - easy upgrade, very unlikely to sell that room
so why not give it out to someone who appreciates it.
2 nights - probably ok, especially if there are a few of each type available.
3+ nights, they will be banking on being able to sell the room in night 3 and onwards so even if there is availability they will be reluctant to give it out.
Also, I’m sure you’ve done your reading around the rest of the forum, but upgrades are waaaayy more common outside of the US. My travel is 50% UK, 40% Middle East, 10% Europe, usually 1 night at a time as I move around a lot, I get upgraded 80% of the time. 20% of the time it is a significant upgrade.
1 night - easy upgrade, very unlikely to sell that room
so why not give it out to someone who appreciates it.
2 nights - probably ok, especially if there are a few of each type available.
3+ nights, they will be banking on being able to sell the room in night 3 and onwards so even if there is availability they will be reluctant to give it out.
Also, I’m sure you’ve done your reading around the rest of the forum, but upgrades are waaaayy more common outside of the US. My travel is 50% UK, 40% Middle East, 10% Europe, usually 1 night at a time as I move around a lot, I get upgraded 80% of the time. 20% of the time it is a significant upgrade.
I'll be back to post my results, and also add my experience in the hotel specific thread for the hotel. The price I snagged was marvelous compared to the going rate, so if I'm snubbed, at least I know I didn't pay anything close to the average price since Hilton has the Middle-east sale going on. Another thing, it's right off the creek in old town, so I'm happy about that if nothing else.
#289
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,262
I can definitely attest that the nicest upgrades I have gotten have all been for one night stays. Once you get past two nights, the "upgrades" tend to be modest such as Executive level, higher floor, better view
#290
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Mexico City
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold, IHG Silver, Choice Platinum, Wyndham Gold
Posts: 3,850
I don't recall ever staying in a hotel for just one night. It's always multiple nights. But, you are right, the only upgrades I've ever received were high floors and views, not an actual room type upgrade.
#291
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Southern California
Programs: AA EXPlat, 2.4MM; HHonors Diamond
Posts: 580
I've always wanted to try it but I've never had the stones to. Then again I seem to have slightly better luck with upgrades since my stays are shorter and on slower days. My usual "upgrade" at non Euro/Asian properties is an executive room. But in countries like China and Canada I get a suite upgrade almost every time. It really does have a lot to do with a specific property and I typically won't stay at properties that have a history of that BS approach to upgrades.
#292
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: DCA
Posts: 7,769
Ever been to Germany? The post from craz upthread is spot on - they'll "upgrade" you to the same room with a robe and pair of slippers in the closet. That's the most I've ever gotten in weeks of Diamond stays, including during absolutely dead periods (e.g. at business hotels around the holidays).
#293
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,477
My personal experience is:
1, Don't do online check-in if you are counting on a random upgrade from front desk
2, Don't expect a meaningful upgrade as there are too many D (Diamond), MD (Matched Diamond) and CCD (Credit Card Diamond) around. Not to mention the ever growing population of bean counters hotel management around the globe.
Hilton used to be great. But with the 1, floating redemption (inflation!) 2, Continental breakfast and charge for hot breakfast crap and 3, Hiltons has below par executive lounges or removing lounges, I am going to stick with IHG now.
1, Don't do online check-in if you are counting on a random upgrade from front desk
2, Don't expect a meaningful upgrade as there are too many D (Diamond), MD (Matched Diamond) and CCD (Credit Card Diamond) around. Not to mention the ever growing population of bean counters hotel management around the globe.
Hilton used to be great. But with the 1, floating redemption (inflation!) 2, Continental breakfast and charge for hot breakfast crap and 3, Hiltons has below par executive lounges or removing lounges, I am going to stick with IHG now.
#294
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
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Intercontinental lounges are far, far nicer and much more classy than the Hilton equivalents. But you're invited to enter only if you are a Royal Ambassador: otherwise you pay.
Even if you are top of the roost Spire Royal Ambassador you don't get breakfast or lounge access at Holiday Inns or Crowne Plazas, whatever your status. There are rare but welcome exceptions to this, mostly in Asia.
The joy of Diamond and Hilton is you are more or less assured of a free breakfast whatever brand you stay at; and where lounges exist, you get no quibble access. The space may be filled with family groups picnicking on the cheap, and the food is likely of the low-end comfort variety, but at least you'll get a drink
#295
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: Mexico City
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, Marriot Gold, IHG Silver, Choice Platinum, Wyndham Gold
Posts: 3,850
....The joy of Diamond and Hilton is you are more or less assured of a free breakfast whatever brand you stay at; and where lounges exist, you get no quibble access. The space may be filled with family groups picnicking on the cheap, and the food is likely of the low-end comfort variety, but at least you'll get a drink
It's just wonderful to wake up knowing you have breakfast waiting for you between 6am -10, so you can take your time getting ready for the day, and in the meantime drink some complimentary tea or coffee in your room.
The only IHG properties I book is Holiday Inn, just for the breakfast. No way I'm paying for breakfast on top of what I already paid for.
So, Hilton it is. And Marriott rates can be outrageous and still don't include breakfast. 🤪
#296
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Join Date: Jul 2007
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Good luck with that strategy - unless, of course you are happy to pay for club access.
Intercontinental lounges are far, far nicer and much more classy than the Hilton equivalents. But you're invited to enter only if you are a Royal Ambassador: otherwise you pay.
Even if you are top of the roost Spire Royal Ambassador you don't get breakfast or lounge access at Holiday Inns or Crowne Plazas, whatever your status. There are rare but welcome exceptions to this, mostly in Asia.
The joy of Diamond and Hilton is you are more or less assured of a free breakfast whatever brand you stay at; and where lounges exist, you get no quibble access. The space may be filled with family groups picnicking on the cheap, and the food is likely of the low-end comfort variety, but at least you'll get a drink
Intercontinental lounges are far, far nicer and much more classy than the Hilton equivalents. But you're invited to enter only if you are a Royal Ambassador: otherwise you pay.
Even if you are top of the roost Spire Royal Ambassador you don't get breakfast or lounge access at Holiday Inns or Crowne Plazas, whatever your status. There are rare but welcome exceptions to this, mostly in Asia.
The joy of Diamond and Hilton is you are more or less assured of a free breakfast whatever brand you stay at; and where lounges exist, you get no quibble access. The space may be filled with family groups picnicking on the cheap, and the food is likely of the low-end comfort variety, but at least you'll get a drink
But my most travel places are USA, Asia and Australia.
In USA, Holiday Inn Express is perfect and generally cheaper than Hilton equivalent when using cash or points. In some of the Hilton I visited, the hotel charges for full breakfast for being diamond, or charge for alcoholic drinks in the lounge happy hour. I don't need that. It is like, yes I am give your free breakfast, but only the cold one. I will give you lounges, but this is $8 for a beer plus gratuities please. It spoils the game. Plus, since many US Hiltons are removing the lounges, yet no drinks voucher giving to compensate. It is increasingly become a lottery draw to guess which Hilton has a lounge (figuratively speaking). In that case, I would rather stay with someone I know I would get nothing in return which is far cheaper.
In Asia, being Spire and Ambassador, I get free Club lounge in CP and now Intercontinental in China is giving Ambassador a free breakfast. Holiday Inn bed and breakfast rate is far cheaper than a full service Hilton in where I travel to.
In Australia, well, you can count the number of Hilton hotels using one hand. The quality of lounges in Australia is not bad.
So, after balancing everything out, Hilton is a good second choice program. I found IHG is still better. I generally avoid IC brand as I know one would not get Club lounge unless pay for the lounge. But I am happy to choose Holiday Inn Express in USA, Holiday Inn with breakfast rate in Europe and CP in Asia. I don't go to ME that much as you, but from your report, I think Hilton is better in that region for guaranteed benefit.
#297
Join Date: Dec 2019
Programs: Delta Skymiles
Posts: 41
Well I am going to try out the no log in one night situation tomorrow. One problem it will be at a Hampton so it is a crap shoot if they have any suites, but I am going to give it shot and let you know. Next few weeks will prob. be at Hamptons because small towns in Ga, Pa, and Mi.
I would like to say thank you for everyone who gave their input. I do appreciate it.
I would like to say thank you for everyone who gave their input. I do appreciate it.
#298
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: NYC
Programs: HH Diamond, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 694
Well I am going to try out the no log in one night situation tomorrow but I am going to give it shot and let you know. Next few weeks will prob. be at Hamptons because small towns in Ga, Pa, and Mi.
I would like to say thank you for everyone who gave their input. I do appreciate it.
I would like to say thank you for everyone who gave their input. I do appreciate it.
#299
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: Flying Blue, Hilton Honors, Amtrak Guest Rewards
Posts: 2,407
However, whenever I worked the morning shift and there were fewer Diamonds in standard Kings than available King suites, I'd just assign them the suites.
I've seen a fair number of posts indicating that upgrade chances are better at Hampton than at the other flags in the US.
#300
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Join Date: Jun 2000
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In Hamptons that have upgraded inventory I have probably been upgraded 50% of the time over the last 10 years. I always put in the comments "Req Avl Dmd Upgrd. Thank you!" and if I am really hoping to get an upgrade to a particular room type (it's easy enough to see what sort of rooms they have when doing a booking) I specify that too -- and the day before check in opens I send a fax (yes, a fax) to the hotel nicely requesting.