Hilton Honors: Double points in 2013 Q1
Dec 23, 2012, 1:09 pm
#61
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Omaha
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If you think about it the VS thing really does hurt the Hampton brand. I would say 50% of the time I can choose between Hampton and HG with very little price difference. As long as my preferrence is points/fixed miles I will choose HG every time (plus the better breakfast/2 drinks).
Dec 23, 2012, 1:28 pm
#62
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE, AA Plat, SPG Plat, HH Diamond, PC Plat Ambassador, Hyatt Diamond, Fairmont Plat
Posts: 1,179
What is a "Hampton"?
Oh I remember now.... I used to stay there once in a while when BMI was a partner and gave 1000 miles per night up to 3 nights. Those days are long gone and so am I.
SG
Oh I remember now.... I used to stay there once in a while when BMI was a partner and gave 1000 miles per night up to 3 nights. Those days are long gone and so am I.
SG
Dec 23, 2012, 1:39 pm
#63
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With VS you get 1000 miles per stay (baseline) or 2000 miles per stay if you select double airline miles, choose fixed miles, and stay in HGI or higher categories. If you do mostly one-night stays in HGI or full service hotels, it is equivalent to 4k (2k VS = 4k Hilton) HHonors points per stay on top of regular point earnings and top tier amenities. In this case the promo adds an additional 2k Hhonors per stay, which works well if you pay less than $200 per night and typically do one night stays.
SG
SG
VS... Do the miles there expire? Is it worth to sign-up with them?
Dec 23, 2012, 4:41 pm
#64
Join Date: Jun 2011
Programs: HHonors Diamond
Posts: 98
Shouldn't the breakeven point here be $133.33? By choosing Double Miles and Fixes miles you're sacrificing the opporunity of double points (10 points per dollar) and extra points as your double dip partner (5 points), so anything more than $133.33 and you'd be giving up more than 2,000 points.
Also need to take into account that VS miles have to be transferred to HHonors points in increments of 5,000.
Also need to take into account that VS miles have to be transferred to HHonors points in increments of 5,000.
Dec 23, 2012, 4:53 pm
#65
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Shouldn't the breakeven point here be $133.33? By choosing Double Miles and Fixes miles you're sacrificing the opporunity of double points (10 points per dollar) and extra points as your double dip partner (5 points), so anything more than $133.33 and you'd be giving up more than 2,000 points.
Also need to take into account that VS miles have to be transferred to HHonors points in increments of 5,000.
Also need to take into account that VS miles have to be transferred to HHonors points in increments of 5,000.
vs.
2K VS = 4000 HH
You would earn the same base points 1330 + Diamond amenity of 1000 in either case.
Dec 23, 2012, 4:56 pm
#66
Join Date: Jun 2011
Programs: HHonors Diamond
Posts: 98
Dec 23, 2012, 5:13 pm
#67
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,689
[QUOTE=IggySD;19910400]For everyone considering switching their earning style to VS miles keep in mind that you need a minimum of 10k miles to switch, earning you 20k HH points. So if you have less than 5 Hilton stays coming up those VS miles are just going to be sitting there for awhile.[/QUOTE]
true. Unless you have some miles sitting there to already combine these with.^ It's a great promo to top off the last miles promo hhonors had
(as long as your stays are participating).
true. Unless you have some miles sitting there to already combine these with.^ It's a great promo to top off the last miles promo hhonors had
(as long as your stays are participating).
Dec 23, 2012, 6:08 pm
#68
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
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With VS you get 1000 miles per stay (baseline) or 2000 miles per stay if you select double airline miles, choose fixed miles, and stay in HGI or higher categories. If you do mostly one-night stays in HGI or full service hotels, it is equivalent to 4k (2k VS = 4k Hilton) HHonors points per stay on top of regular point earnings and top tier amenities. In this case the promo adds an additional 2k Hhonors per stay, which works well if you pay less than $200 per night and typically do one night stays.
SG
SG
One benefit of HA: If one member of your family has an HA Sig VISA card (BofA or BofHI), it is possible to pool family miles (move to the credit card holder's account). This way, both spouses can get separate Visa Cards, pool miles and convert to HHonors points in ONE ACCOUNT.
Dec 23, 2012, 9:10 pm
#69
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: RSW
Programs: Delta - Silver; UA - Silver; HHonors - Diamond; IHG - Spire Ambassador; Marriott Bonvoy - Titanium
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How is this any different than HA - same redemption limitations.
One benefit of HA: If one member of your family has an HA Sig VISA card (BofA or BofHI), it is possible to pool family miles (move to the credit card holder's account). This way, both spouses can get separate Visa Cards, pool miles and convert to HHonors points in ONE ACCOUNT.
One benefit of HA: If one member of your family has an HA Sig VISA card (BofA or BofHI), it is possible to pool family miles (move to the credit card holder's account). This way, both spouses can get separate Visa Cards, pool miles and convert to HHonors points in ONE ACCOUNT.
Dec 23, 2012, 9:23 pm
#70
Join Date: Nov 1999
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Human nature ‘tis an odd mistress
I was miffed that my first Hilton stay of ‘13 predated this bonus scheme by two days, but was oddly assuaged when I realized that the hotel was an opt-out.
Of course, once in bonus time I’ll go out of my way to avoid non-participants.
Of course, once in bonus time I’ll go out of my way to avoid non-participants.
Dec 23, 2012, 9:32 pm
#71
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: San Diego, Ca
Programs: AA 2MM LT PLT; AS MVP Gold75k; HHonors Diamond; IHG PLT
Posts: 3,502
Sites like Frugal Travel Guy encourage people to churn HA credit cards so the miles can be converted to Hhonors points - I plan to transfer my first batch of 35k this week.
Dec 24, 2012, 7:09 pm
#72
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE, AA Plat, SPG Plat, HH Diamond, PC Plat Ambassador, Hyatt Diamond, Fairmont Plat
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How is this any different than HA - same redemption limitations.
One benefit of HA: If one member of your family has an HA Sig VISA card (BofA or BofHI), it is possible to pool family miles (move to the credit card holder's account). This way, both spouses can get separate Visa Cards, pool miles and convert to HHonors points in ONE ACCOUNT.
One benefit of HA: If one member of your family has an HA Sig VISA card (BofA or BofHI), it is possible to pool family miles (move to the credit card holder's account). This way, both spouses can get separate Visa Cards, pool miles and convert to HHonors points in ONE ACCOUNT.
The whole point of this discussion is that VS can be a better form of Hhonors accrual for certain stay patterns relative to pure Hhonors accumulation. I happen to have a stay pattern which matches this profile.
SG
Dec 25, 2012, 1:53 pm
#75
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kirkland, WA
Programs: AS 75K,UA Gold 1.6MM, Hilton Dia, Marriott LT Plat, Hyatt Glb, Natl Exec, Hertz 5*
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Whatever happened to consistency across the brand??