Apr 2, 2023, 5:01 pm
Last edit by: cblaisd
Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
Consolidated "Points Devaluation" thread
Jun 8, 2019 | 5:56 pm
#1471
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Spire Ambassador, Radisson Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 3,749
Hilton Salalah was 5,000 points a night two years ago. Now it's 30,000 points a night.
Stayed at Hilton Kota Kinabalu last year for 20,000. It's now 30,000.
Stayed at Hilton Kota Kinabalu last year for 20,000. It's now 30,000.
Last edited by jphripjah; Jun 8, 2019 at 6:11 pm
Jun 8, 2019 | 6:07 pm
#1472
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: PHL
Programs: HH LTD, Marriott LTS & Ambassador, WOH Explorist, AA EXP
Posts: 774
Just a few days ago, i booked an award stay that got me .9 cents per point. I felt like I hit the jackpot.
Then I remembered the GLONP awards from long ago....... Those were the good old days (Yes, I am going to go yell at the kids to get off my lawn now).
I have been expecting a further devaluation for some time. Because of it I have been very cautious to not sit on a massive amount of Hilton Points.... Though like many I am disappointed if there has been a no-warning major devaluation.
Then I remembered the GLONP awards from long ago....... Those were the good old days (Yes, I am going to go yell at the kids to get off my lawn now).
I have been expecting a further devaluation for some time. Because of it I have been very cautious to not sit on a massive amount of Hilton Points.... Though like many I am disappointed if there has been a no-warning major devaluation.
Last edited by Dad to Rei; Jun 8, 2019 at 6:08 pm Reason: Change it from 9 Cents too .9 cents.
Jun 8, 2019 | 7:31 pm
#1474
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: IB+ Gold, TK E+, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LTP, IHG Diamond
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Judging by FT, I'd say that Hilton is the only hotel chain where having the co-branded credit card is almost intrinsic to the choice of hotel chain. i.e. it's easy enough to find reasons to be loyal to Hyatt, Marriott, etc. with or without a credit card. Hilton? Not so much...
Although I agree with you, many credit card holders just treat devaluations as a reason to do even more MS, or to hold even more tightly to their credit card to earn more points on hotel stays than the general public.
Although I agree with you, many credit card holders just treat devaluations as a reason to do even more MS, or to hold even more tightly to their credit card to earn more points on hotel stays than the general public.
Jun 8, 2019 | 8:00 pm
#1475
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 5,305
Judging by FT, I'd say that Hilton is the only hotel chain where having the co-branded credit card is almost intrinsic to the choice of hotel chain. i.e. it's easy enough to find reasons to be loyal to Hyatt, Marriott, etc. with or without a credit card. Hilton? Not so much...
Jun 8, 2019 | 8:17 pm
#1476
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
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I don't doubt that many hotel choices are made due to location, but it is completely impossible for Hilton to have precisely the perfect location in every single place that a traveller visits. So you don't choose to be loyal TO A CHAIN based on location, you choose based on other factors. And if you choose Hilton Honors based on the location of one or two specific hotels, then you are indeed missing something...
Jun 8, 2019 | 10:49 pm
#1477
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAX
Posts: 11,594
Hampton jackson hole is 70k now.. and i thought yesterday that 60 was out of whack...
hilton honors - proudly celebrating 10 years of devaluations
hilton honors - proudly celebrating 10 years of devaluations
Last edited by azepine00; Jun 8, 2019 at 10:57 pm
Jun 8, 2019 | 11:33 pm
#1479
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AA EXP; UA 1MM & PP; Marriott AMB; Hyatt Globalist; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 62,343
Surprised the blogs have not picked this up yet. Seems Hilton has surreptitiously increased rates almost across the board.
Jun 9, 2019 | 12:36 am
#1480
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Hyatt Place
Programs: world hyatt national
Posts: 5,894
Hilton Tokyo: 60k -> 70k
Hilton YVR: 40k -> 50k
DT Park City Yarrow ski season: same (60k)
DT Breckenridge ski season: same (60k)
Hilton Whistler: same (80k)
Conrad HKG: same (80k)
Conrad SIN: same (60k)
All the 95k Conrads that I checked appear to be staying put at 95k.
Hilton YVR: 40k -> 50k
DT Park City Yarrow ski season: same (60k)
DT Breckenridge ski season: same (60k)
Hilton Whistler: same (80k)
Conrad HKG: same (80k)
Conrad SIN: same (60k)
All the 95k Conrads that I checked appear to be staying put at 95k.
Jun 9, 2019 | 1:54 am
#1481
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL
Posts: 3,359
You are missing something... (I'm not saying that to be argumentative or dismissive)
I don't doubt that many hotel choices are made due to location, but it is completely impossible for Hilton to have precisely the perfect location in every single place that a traveller visits. So you don't choose to be loyal TO A CHAIN based on location, you choose based on other factors. And if you choose Hilton Honors based on the location of one or two specific hotels, then you are indeed missing something...
I don't doubt that many hotel choices are made due to location, but it is completely impossible for Hilton to have precisely the perfect location in every single place that a traveller visits. So you don't choose to be loyal TO A CHAIN based on location, you choose based on other factors. And if you choose Hilton Honors based on the location of one or two specific hotels, then you are indeed missing something...
I'm of the opinion that many people are pledging loyalty for things that aren't of great value. Free breakfast is irrelevant to any business traveler working for a decent company. And upgrades to larger rooms aren't important to a lot of single travelers. (If traveling with friends or family and you need that larger room, the fact that upgrades are based on availability makes it a useless benefit.)
Being loyal and becoming a top-level elite is really smart for some people. But, it's not smart for everyone.
Jun 9, 2019 | 4:13 am
#1482
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: PHL/EWR
Programs: AA, US, WN, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 1,530
Jun 9, 2019 | 4:17 am
#1483
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: PHL/EWR
Programs: AA, US, WN, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 1,530
Jun 9, 2019 | 7:23 am
#1484
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Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
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Posts: 14,206
Elite benefits are irrelevant to a discussion of no-notice devaluations and I agree that people can value those differently.
My original comment is that many people on FT seem to justify a loyalty to Hilton and its fast-devaluing points currency, because they think they can get the credit card and still do alright. Which is why a devaluation won't bother them quite as much as it probably should...
Jun 9, 2019 | 8:07 am
#1485
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Muscat/Doha/Manchester
Programs: Oman Air Gold, Qatar Airways Platinum, Marriott Ambassador, HH Diamond, GHA Black, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 478
Excuse the ignorance but I am relatively new to Hilton, is there no awards chart available with Hilton say for example I have 30,000 points and I want to see where I can use that points? is there anywhere I can find out which options I would be able to chose from?