Apr 2, 2023, 5:01 pm
Last edit by: cblaisd
Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
Consolidated "Points Devaluation" thread
Jun 8, 2019 | 1:17 am
#1441
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Hyatt Place
Programs: world hyatt national
Posts: 5,894
I just checked half dozen properties that are of greatest interest to me in Asia and Canada. I noticed points increase at only 1 of those (Tokyo Hilton), although of course this is a small sample size.
Jun 8, 2019 | 1:25 am
#1443
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: DEN
Programs: AA EXP, AA Million Miles, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 2,925
I would suggest that if you are already redeeming points at the maximum level - you are probably not overly concerned with the "value" of the points
At least as in value defined as using the lowest number of points possible. Value might be better defined by a comparison to the monetary cost of booking the same room at the same time...and by what not paying monetary price allows you to instead use those funds for.
And, IMO, "storing" large balances of hotel points is never a good idea.
At least as in value defined as using the lowest number of points possible. Value might be better defined by a comparison to the monetary cost of booking the same room at the same time...and by what not paying monetary price allows you to instead use those funds for.
And, IMO, "storing" large balances of hotel points is never a good idea.
Jun 8, 2019 | 1:37 am
#1444
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: HH Diamond
Posts: 726
I would suggest that if you are already redeeming points at the maximum level - you are probably not overly concerned with the "value" of the points
At least as in value defined as using the lowest number of points possible. Value might be better defined by a comparison to the monetary cost of booking the same room at the same time...and by what not paying monetary price allows you to instead use those funds for.
And, IMO, "storing" large balances of hotel points is never a good idea.
At least as in value defined as using the lowest number of points possible. Value might be better defined by a comparison to the monetary cost of booking the same room at the same time...and by what not paying monetary price allows you to instead use those funds for.
And, IMO, "storing" large balances of hotel points is never a good idea.
Jun 8, 2019 | 2:24 am
#1445
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Barcelona, London, on a plane
Programs: IB+ Gold, TK E+, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott LTP, IHG Diamond
Posts: 14,206
The concept isn't "news".
IMO if you want to draw attention to the matter you need to be specific about which hotels now cost more. It's relatively easy to keep track of the Conrad Maldives at 95K and the former sweetspots at 5-10K that are rapidly being devalued to 20K and higher.
But a vague "examining several cities" doesn't help anybody. So if you just want to rant that's your own business. If you want to help other people you need to be specific about which hotels have definitely blown though their former cap. Otherwise Hilton win the day with their "people won't really notice"...
IMO if you want to draw attention to the matter you need to be specific about which hotels now cost more. It's relatively easy to keep track of the Conrad Maldives at 95K and the former sweetspots at 5-10K that are rapidly being devalued to 20K and higher.
But a vague "examining several cities" doesn't help anybody. So if you just want to rant that's your own business. If you want to help other people you need to be specific about which hotels have definitely blown though their former cap. Otherwise Hilton win the day with their "people won't really notice"...
Jun 8, 2019 | 2:49 am
#1447
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,592
DT Wroclaw now 30k from 20k. Far beyond the typical 60 I often pay to stay there.
Hilton Warsaw now 50k.
Vienna has lost its 10k hotel, now the HGI South is 20k.
So the sweet spots are once again being culled as we move to the fixed value of a point.
Hilton Warsaw now 50k.
Vienna has lost its 10k hotel, now the HGI South is 20k.
So the sweet spots are once again being culled as we move to the fixed value of a point.
Jun 8, 2019 | 5:35 am
#1449
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 5,116
The inevitable consequence of 160,000 points sales for $800 and welcome bonuses for several credit cards totaling over 300,000 points as well as double points on stays and generous points on everyday spend.
Jun 8, 2019 | 6:33 am
#1450
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AA,CX, BA, Priority Club, SPG, Hilton
Posts: 1,421
So, I won't say it's increase ,it's more dynamic.
Jun 8, 2019 | 7:05 am
#1452
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,592
Ive seen DT Warsaw as low as 12k. Not a surprise when rates can be as low as 30. And the Hilton also with such numbers because based on the new system even at 40k or 30k it was too high in points on some dates.
Hence its incorrect to say it hasnt increased. The new upper limit is 50k for the Hilton. A truly comical rate for that hotel in a city like Warsaw.
Its increased.
Jun 8, 2019 | 9:41 am
#1453
Join Date: Aug 2010
Programs: AA,CX, BA, Priority Club, SPG, Hilton
Posts: 1,421
Thats not new. Its an increase.
Ive seen DT Warsaw as low as 12k. Not a surprise when rates can be as low as 30. And the Hilton also with such numbers because based on the new system even at 40k or 30k it was too high in points on some dates.
Hence its incorrect to say it hasnt increased. The new upper limit is 50k for the Hilton. A truly comical rate for that hotel in a city like Warsaw.
Its increased.
Jun 8, 2019 | 9:51 am
#1455
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Spire Ambassador, Global Entry
Posts: 4,337
Are companies required to inform you when the hotels are being raised in price with cash rates? So what makes you think they need to do this with points? Do you think that point prices should never go up in price? Is it because you talked about it with a few dozen people on the internet?
News flash. High-demand hotels, in a strong economy, have gone up in price. Sure it sucks, and thanks for letting us know. No need for all of the outrage and claims of bait and switch.
News flash. High-demand hotels, in a strong economy, have gone up in price. Sure it sucks, and thanks for letting us know. No need for all of the outrage and claims of bait and switch.