My rate at Hilton Molino Stucky Venice for 2 nights in April just dropped from 50k to 44k per night. Consistent with a redemption value of just over .5 cpp.

My cash and points stay at Manchester Airport was 8,000 + �32 before, now it's 8,000 plus �103.

Indeed great value for redemption at Hilton Sydney, just booked a 5 nights in July at 174000 (used to be 240000).
I also found better value at
Hilton Singapore 42000,
HGI Hong Kong 22000
Hilton Darwin 41000.

I have an award stay coming up on the 16th for 3 nights in Tempe AZ. No cash component added and if I look at rebooking is exactly the same rate as I reserved it at last December, 30K per night, so leaving as is.

I live 10 miles away and use this place on occasion instead of getting a taxi home at 10k a night or what was 4k and �19

It is still is bookable at 10k, but quite a few dates are not available which I hadn't seen before. Cash rates seem to have jumped on some dates too, 20th May for example is �254!

Apparently I missed all these happenings by not checking on HH FT forum.

I thought the points for Hilton Paris Opera was all over the map high. I'll have to figure out how best to use up my 810K points devaluing daily.

This is ridiculous. Hilton has already been toying with 72 hour requirements for cancellations because of the (perceived by management) high rate of cancellations. Let's all just imagine what is going to happen to cancellation requirements if people actually start acting like this.

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The question is: What does Hilton value their points at? This changes from hotel to hotel, room options and dates. I haven't found any consistency yet. Either that, or they are giving worse exchange rates than the airport.

Every hotel in Newcastle that weekend is either �200+ a night or fully booked and have been for months.

In terms of how busy it is it's probably second only to the great north run weekend.

Major events normally tend to fill hotels and six rugby matches within forty eight hours is probably a major event.

I think it's pretty clear by now that anyone hoping for some great C+P redemption rates have been shot in the foot here, so its fair to say those rates have been devalued.

That said, I was looking at Hilton Prague later this month and there's now rooms available at 27k. I was looking at 40k beforehand, so much welcomed.

I already had a reservation for 6 nights in January for the Hilton Bournemouth at 315.30 pounds and 96,000 points. Just used the slider to see about getting the cash part up and the points down and could now pay


99,000 Points
+
� 506.16

What a treat.

I found pretty much that each pt comes out to bet .005 and .0055 each. Now if its a good rate for all pts depends on already knowing what Cat the hotel was previously and what it cost in pts prior to 3/1. An example an HGI I stayed at on pts was 20k every time although it was a Cat4 = 20-30k (guess I was always there during low season reason why it was 20k) when looking at any date upcoming it was 23k = 3k more due to the rate of $110, but yet not at its cap of 30k. On the other hand another I stayed at was 40k (a Cat5) but usually with rates < $100 so now I saw it for 19k reflecting the < $100 rate for the night in question

Never did C&P so I will go with most posters who did them and now say by and large the $ portion is alot more when using the same amount of pts as they did prior to 3/1

Now although that DT was 19k it may save 21k in pts but with the < $100 rate it doesnt save me anything since Hilton simply multiplied the rate x .005/.0055 so either way it costs the same. The only real savings IMO is you find a hotel that has a rate that when multiplied by .005 works out to need more pts then its cap eg a Cat10 is capped @ 95k = $475 so if that hotel is say charging $500 a night and has standard rooms for 95k then you will cashout at a better rate then .005. Or a person wants to take leave of Hilton then 19k for that < $100 room is a good deal as well. But if theres a promo on going then you need to figure out how many pts you will be giving up by not paying $$ and using the pts instead.

So what's the official verdict (from Lauren) on what seems like an outright lie from Hilton ?

Like most others, I just priced up a C+P for the HGI in Dubai. Last week it was 183 AED + 12K and now (with the new system) it is 256 AED + 12K.

Base cost is still the same (ie 30K per room) but it is clear that the C+P has gone up despite the promise that it would not exceed previous ?

Some conversion samples from highest to lowest money value per point from €0.00798 to €0,00247 per HH point. Please note the room availability calendar ("flexible dates" option) seems not to show standard room reward rates, only either lowest premium room reward rates or standard (money) rates (in Hilton Honors points mode).

The value per point is not consistent, but it is obvious that Premium Room Rewards have 30-50% less value than Standard Room Rewards, at one hotel I found even 70% less value for a premium room reward rate compared to a standard room reward rate (La Bagnaia, Italy).

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La Bagnaia Golf & Spa Resort, Siena (Italy)
HH points 50,000 (Standard room reward)
€399 Honors Discount rate (P&M rate)
€0.00798 value per HH point
Please note room availabilty calendar shows Premium rewards room rate as lowest points rate (169,000).

Hilton Bonn (Germany)
HH points 16,000 (Standard room reward)
€86 Honors Discount rate (P&M rate)
€0.005375 value per HH point

Waldorf Astoria Berlin (Germany)
HH points 39,000 (Standard room reward)
€200 Flexible rate (P&M rate)
€0.0051282 value per HH point

Hilton Garden Inn Milan Malpensa (Italy)
HH points 12,000 (Standard room reward)
€61 Honors Discount rate (P&M rate)
€0.0050833 value per HH point

Rome Cavalieri (Italy)
HH points 69,000 (Standard room reward)
€346 Honors Discount rate (P&M rate)
€0.0050144 value per HH point
Please note the room availability calendar does not show any points rate in this case but the Best Flexible rate (€365).

Rome Cavalieri (Italy)
HH points 183,000 (Premium room reward, Imperial Rome view)
€693 Honors Discount rate (P&M rate)
€0.0037868 value per HH point

Hilton Bonn (Germany)
HH points 250,000 (Premium room reward, King Tower suite)
€821 Honors Discount rate (P&M rate)
€0.003284 value per HH point

Hilton Bonn (Germany)
HH points 30,000 (Premium room reward, King guestroom w/ courtyard view)
€96 Honors Discount rate (P&M rate)
€0.0032 value per HH point

Waldorf Astoria Berlin (Germany)
HH points 3,116,000 (Premium room reward, Presidential Suite)
€8,150 Best available (P&M rate)
€0,0026155 value per HH point

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La Bagnaia Golf & Spa Resort, Siena (Italy)
HH points 169,000 (Premium room rewards, Queen superior room)
€418 Honors Discount rate (P&M rate)
€0,0024733 value per HH point