Dec 13, 2018, 4:30 am
Last edit by: TravelinSperry
Mod note - As of 7/25/2018: We've had quite a few "Hey, come use this CDP. It's great" type of posts. When the CDP doesn't give a good discount, but is only posted to try to get renters to use the CDP of someone so the poster can earn perks from their Hertz Corporate account. From here out, please put the company/trade group/etc that's associated with the CDP or we'll delete the post to keep it on-topic here
NOTE: CDPs provided because Hertz or entity publicly links to them (source links provided next to each CDP). DO NOT list corporate codes or list a CDP without public source link
HERTZ PUBLIC CDPs: (usable by everyone)
CDP# 2007815: Travelers 50 and over (Hertz Fifty Plus) link here
CDP# 2115632: Cyber Sale (not always active for discounts, used during, 2022 & 2023 Cyber Sales, link here)
CDP# 1392782: Hertz Member Program (for members of Hertz Gold Plus Rewards Program - free to join)
CDP# 2102513: Promo Rates (autoslash link here)
MARKETING ORGANIZATION PUBLIC CDPs (usable by everyone - NOTE: these organizations earn commissions and/or perks from Hertz when their CDPs are used)
CDP# 1742729: RentalPerks (free registration link here and CDP link here) (RentalPerks is powered by CorporateShopping.com, registration link here)
CDP # 2235259: Launching Deals (free to use, site link here, Hertz link here)
CDP# 2002325: Save Around Members (sells coupon books with Hertz CDP and offers add'l savings) CDP provided because Hertz links to it publicly here
CDP# 1731619: Entertainment Book (14 day free trial, link here) - CDP provided because Hertz links to it publicly here
CREDIT CARD CDPs: (look in your wallet to see which credit card(s) you have, and where the cc is issued from). You are entitled to use that CDP for your Hertz rental however it should be noted Hertz T&Cs state: "In all cases, XXX card must be registered as the form of payment in your Gold Plus Reward membership profile." So it would be wise to book & pay for your rental with the card CDP you use.
Mastercard:
CDP# 1795034: World Elite Cardholders (EMEA) (link here)
CDP# 795089: World Elite Cardholders (Ireland) link here (link includes CDPs for all other Mastercard card types for Ireland)
CDP# 542075: World Elite Cardholders (France) link here (link includes CDPs for all other Mastercard card types for France)
CDP# 795093: Platinum cardholders UK & Ireland based (link here)
CDP# 795090: World Cardholders UK & Ireland based (link here)
CDP# 814540: Premium cardholders; World & Platinum Credit and Debit (UK Based) (link here)
CDP# 795094: Gold Cardholders (Europe based) (link here)
CDP# 795091: Standard Cardholders (EMEA link here, Ireland link here, France link here)
CDP# 795092: Small & medium sized enterprises (small business cardholders) (Ireland link here)
Visa:
CDP# 1244810: Visa Classic Cardholders (US Based) link here
CDP# 618583: Visa Classic Cardholders (Europe based) link here
CDP# 83181: Visa Classic Cardholders (Asia based) link here
CDP# 769985: Visa Infinite/Signature debit and credit Cardholders consumer & business (EMEA based - DPs here) (link here)
CDP# 2150933: Visa Infinite US Based (link here)
American Express:
CDP# 705500: Basic Cardholders (Worldwide) link here (UK) and here (US) and here (Global)
CDP# 427346: American Express Membership Rewards Members (CDP provided by Hertz for Amex MR Certificate redemption but likely works without redemption, ymmv)
CDP# 1889146: American Express Card Members (autoslash link here)
CDP# 306613: Amex Open Savings ("The OPEN Savings benefit is built into Business Cards from American Express OPEN"; link here)
CDP# 211762: Platinum (US Based) link here
CDP# 633306: Platinum (EMEA Based) link here (Canada) link here
CDP# 1460754: Platinum (Latin America Based) Hertz link here (Amex link here)
CDP# 651060: Platinum Business Card (Italy) link here (link includes CDPs for Italian Gold and Green Business Cards)
CDP# 716953: Air France/KLM American Express Platinum Card (link here) Link also provides CDPs for AF/KLM Silver/Gold Amex cards.
CDP# 591064: Centurion (Black Card) (pdf link here)
Bank Specific:
CDP# 160005: Citibank Mastercard holders (link here)
CDP# 2118295: China Union Pay Credit Diamond Card Holders (link here) Link also provides CDPs for Platinum, Gold, & Classic card holders
CDP# 804483: HSBC Premier World & HSBC Premier World Elite Mastercards US Based (link here)
CDP# 1752376: HSBC Credit Cardholders (Singapore Based link here)
CDP# 2054551: JCB Platinum Cardholders (link here)
LOYALTY PROGRAM CDPs: (require joining the appropriate loyalty program - all are free to join so CDPs are listed)
Airline US Based
CDP# 321739: Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan Members (link here)
CDP# 217692: American Airlines AAdvantage Members - note, AA solely promotes Avis/Budget now. (link here)
CDP# 165385: Delta SkyMiles Members - exclusive with Hertz as of Jan 30 2023 (link here)
CDP# 1790143: Jetblue TrueBlue Members (link here)
CDP# 205418: Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards Members (link here)
CDP# 062455: United Airlines Mileage Plus Members - note, as of 2023 United exclusively promotes Avis/Budget (autoslash link here)
Airline Non-US Based
CDP# 1039946: Cathay Pacific Green Members (link here) - Link also provides CDPs for Cathay Silver/Gold/Diamond levels
CDP# 739924: KLM Passengers (link here) - Link also provides CDPs for all Air France Flying Blue levels
CDP# 645970: Lufthansa Miles & More Members (link here)
Link to the current list of Hertz add'l airline partners and CDPs here
Hotel
CDP# 154080: Marriott Rewards Members (link here)
CDP# 22754: IHG Rewards Club Members (link here)
CDP# 902517: Accor ALL Live Limitless Members (link here)
CDP# 826779: Accor ALL Classic Members (link here)
CDP# 826680: Accor ALL Live Gold Members (link here)
CDP# 826777: Accor ALL Live Platinum & Diamond Members (link here)
CDP# 2061209: Caesars Rewards Members (link here)
Rail
CDP# 1229959: Amtrak Guest Rewards Members (link here)
CDP# 652500: Deutsche Bahn - DB BahnCard (link here)
MEMBERSHIP CDPs: (These companies require membership but anyone can enroll for a fee). CDPs not listed where not linked publicly by Hertz - you will receive your CDP after joining/buying
CDP# (see link): AAA - Active membership required and the Hertz website checks for active enrollment
CDP# 32796: BJ's Wholesale Club ($55 per year, enrollment link here) Hertz link here
CDP# (provided after joining): Blue Cross Blue Shield Blue 365 Deals: ~20 States offer a Hertz CDP to members if you have health insurance with BCBS. Current participating States a/o Dec 2023 are: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Iowa, Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, New York (only Western & Central NY, Utica and Rochester regions), North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia, & Wash D.C. See here for complete list of participating BCBS that participate in Blue365.
CDP#: (provided after joining): Founders Card ($595 but provides a variety of air/hotel discounts that offer add'l value, link to benefits here)
ASSOCIATION CDPs: (No Qualification to Enroll, i.e., anyone can join) Oftentimes rates are similar among associations anyone can join. As such, you want to pay the lowest annual/monthly fee).
CDP# 2181835: National Auto Sport Association ($69 annually; link here)
CDP# 1916601: Orienteering USA: ($35 annual membership; link here)
CDP# 584703: Touring Club Italiano (link here) (99€ annual membership for Non-Italians). CDP offers 10% off monthly rentals in Italy and abroad.
CDP# 2245010: USA Archery ($20 annual recreational membership, link here). USA Archery partners with PerkSpot to provide Hertz discounts (link here). Logon link here (accessible after enrollment). Add'l Associations partner with PerkSpot such as USA Triathlon ($50 af) and Kiwanis. After joining you'll be given access.
CDP# 15757: United States Equestrian Federation (free to join for fans, registration link here) Hertz link here
CDP# (differs by Alumni Assoc): Your University Alumni Association (Annual fees differ. Some offer car rental codes - ymmv)
ASSOCIATION & UNION CDPs: (with Membership Requirements) These Associations require you to qualify to join. CDPs are provided since Hertz or Association publicly links to them
CDP# 10232: Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association (link here)
CDP# 11657: American Bankers Association (link here)
CDP# 13000: American Bar Association (link here) (Note: non-lawyers can join for $150 per year a/o Dec 2023, join here)
CDP# 42371: American Dental Association (link here)
CDP# 11356: American Institute of Architects (link here)
CDP# 12353: American Institute of Certified Public Accountants (link here)
CDP# 11635: American Medical Association (link here)
CDP# 166639: American Psychological Association (link here)
CDP# 1605257: Freelancers Union (Free to join; link here) Note: CDP shows as Working Today Inc which is the non-profit parent of Freelancers Union
CDP# 182806: National Association of Realtors (link here)
CDP# 50655: National Education Association (link here)
CDP# 2102007: Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Members (link here)
CDP# 205666: Union Plus (link here)
MILITARY CDPs: (require USA military affiliation). CDPs provided since Hertz or military organization publicly link to them
CDP# 83086: Association of the United States Army (pdf benefits link here)
CDP# 157299: Hertz Military rate (link here)
CDP# (use link): Navy Federal Credit Union
CDP# 71822: Reserve Organization of America (link here)
CDP# 77694: USAA (link here)
CDP# 1615021: USBA - Uniformed Services Benefit Association (link here)
CDP# 1264103: Veterans Advantage ($59.95 p/yr, enrollment link here - 20% discount promos provided often reducing price to $47.96 p/yr) (Hertz link here)
NOTE: CDPs provided because Hertz or entity publicly links to them (source links provided next to each CDP). DO NOT list corporate codes or list a CDP without public source link
HERTZ PUBLIC CDPs: (usable by everyone)
CDP# 2007815: Travelers 50 and over (Hertz Fifty Plus) link here
CDP# 2115632: Cyber Sale (not always active for discounts, used during, 2022 & 2023 Cyber Sales, link here)
CDP# 1392782: Hertz Member Program (for members of Hertz Gold Plus Rewards Program - free to join)
CDP# 2102513: Promo Rates (autoslash link here)
MARKETING ORGANIZATION PUBLIC CDPs (usable by everyone - NOTE: these organizations earn commissions and/or perks from Hertz when their CDPs are used)
CDP# 1742729: RentalPerks (free registration link here and CDP link here) (RentalPerks is powered by CorporateShopping.com, registration link here)
CDP # 2235259: Launching Deals (free to use, site link here, Hertz link here)
CDP# 2002325: Save Around Members (sells coupon books with Hertz CDP and offers add'l savings) CDP provided because Hertz links to it publicly here
CDP# 1731619: Entertainment Book (14 day free trial, link here) - CDP provided because Hertz links to it publicly here
CREDIT CARD CDPs: (look in your wallet to see which credit card(s) you have, and where the cc is issued from). You are entitled to use that CDP for your Hertz rental however it should be noted Hertz T&Cs state: "In all cases, XXX card must be registered as the form of payment in your Gold Plus Reward membership profile." So it would be wise to book & pay for your rental with the card CDP you use.
Mastercard:
CDP# 1795034: World Elite Cardholders (EMEA) (link here)
CDP# 795089: World Elite Cardholders (Ireland) link here (link includes CDPs for all other Mastercard card types for Ireland)
CDP# 542075: World Elite Cardholders (France) link here (link includes CDPs for all other Mastercard card types for France)
CDP# 795093: Platinum cardholders UK & Ireland based (link here)
CDP# 795090: World Cardholders UK & Ireland based (link here)
CDP# 814540: Premium cardholders; World & Platinum Credit and Debit (UK Based) (link here)
CDP# 795094: Gold Cardholders (Europe based) (link here)
CDP# 795091: Standard Cardholders (EMEA link here, Ireland link here, France link here)
CDP# 795092: Small & medium sized enterprises (small business cardholders) (Ireland link here)
Visa:
CDP# 1244810: Visa Classic Cardholders (US Based) link here
CDP# 618583: Visa Classic Cardholders (Europe based) link here
CDP# 83181: Visa Classic Cardholders (Asia based) link here
CDP# 769985: Visa Infinite/Signature debit and credit Cardholders consumer & business (EMEA based - DPs here) (link here)
CDP# 2150933: Visa Infinite US Based (link here)
American Express:
CDP# 705500: Basic Cardholders (Worldwide) link here (UK) and here (US) and here (Global)
CDP# 427346: American Express Membership Rewards Members (CDP provided by Hertz for Amex MR Certificate redemption but likely works without redemption, ymmv)
CDP# 1889146: American Express Card Members (autoslash link here)
CDP# 306613: Amex Open Savings ("The OPEN Savings benefit is built into Business Cards from American Express OPEN"; link here)
CDP# 211762: Platinum (US Based) link here
CDP# 633306: Platinum (EMEA Based) link here (Canada) link here
CDP# 1460754: Platinum (Latin America Based) Hertz link here (Amex link here)
CDP# 651060: Platinum Business Card (Italy) link here (link includes CDPs for Italian Gold and Green Business Cards)
CDP# 716953: Air France/KLM American Express Platinum Card (link here) Link also provides CDPs for AF/KLM Silver/Gold Amex cards.
CDP# 591064: Centurion (Black Card) (pdf link here)
Bank Specific:
CDP# 160005: Citibank Mastercard holders (link here)
CDP# 2118295: China Union Pay Credit Diamond Card Holders (link here) Link also provides CDPs for Platinum, Gold, & Classic card holders
CDP# 804483: HSBC Premier World & HSBC Premier World Elite Mastercards US Based (link here)
CDP# 1752376: HSBC Credit Cardholders (Singapore Based link here)
CDP# 2054551: JCB Platinum Cardholders (link here)
LOYALTY PROGRAM CDPs: (require joining the appropriate loyalty program - all are free to join so CDPs are listed)
Airline US Based
CDP# 321739: Alaska Airlines Mileage Plan Members (link here)
CDP# 217692: American Airlines AAdvantage Members - note, AA solely promotes Avis/Budget now. (link here)
CDP# 165385: Delta SkyMiles Members - exclusive with Hertz as of Jan 30 2023 (link here)
CDP# 1790143: Jetblue TrueBlue Members (link here)
CDP# 205418: Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards Members (link here)
CDP# 062455: United Airlines Mileage Plus Members - note, as of 2023 United exclusively promotes Avis/Budget (autoslash link here)
Airline Non-US Based
CDP# 1039946: Cathay Pacific Green Members (link here) - Link also provides CDPs for Cathay Silver/Gold/Diamond levels
CDP# 739924: KLM Passengers (link here) - Link also provides CDPs for all Air France Flying Blue levels
CDP# 645970: Lufthansa Miles & More Members (link here)
Link to the current list of Hertz add'l airline partners and CDPs here
Hotel
CDP# 154080: Marriott Rewards Members (link here)
CDP# 22754: IHG Rewards Club Members (link here)
CDP# 902517: Accor ALL Live Limitless Members (link here)
CDP# 826779: Accor ALL Classic Members (link here)
CDP# 826680: Accor ALL Live Gold Members (link here)
CDP# 826777: Accor ALL Live Platinum & Diamond Members (link here)
CDP# 2061209: Caesars Rewards Members (link here)
Rail
CDP# 1229959: Amtrak Guest Rewards Members (link here)
CDP# 652500: Deutsche Bahn - DB BahnCard (link here)
MEMBERSHIP CDPs: (These companies require membership but anyone can enroll for a fee). CDPs not listed where not linked publicly by Hertz - you will receive your CDP after joining/buying
CDP# (see link): AAA - Active membership required and the Hertz website checks for active enrollment
CDP# 32796: BJ's Wholesale Club ($55 per year, enrollment link here) Hertz link here
CDP# (provided after joining): Blue Cross Blue Shield Blue 365 Deals: ~20 States offer a Hertz CDP to members if you have health insurance with BCBS. Current participating States a/o Dec 2023 are: Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Iowa, Florida, Kansas, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, New York (only Western & Central NY, Utica and Rochester regions), North Carolina, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia, & Wash D.C. See here for complete list of participating BCBS that participate in Blue365.
CDP#: (provided after joining): Founders Card ($595 but provides a variety of air/hotel discounts that offer add'l value, link to benefits here)
ASSOCIATION CDPs: (No Qualification to Enroll, i.e., anyone can join) Oftentimes rates are similar among associations anyone can join. As such, you want to pay the lowest annual/monthly fee).
CDP# 2181835: National Auto Sport Association ($69 annually; link here)
CDP# 1916601: Orienteering USA: ($35 annual membership; link here)
CDP# 584703: Touring Club Italiano (link here) (99€ annual membership for Non-Italians). CDP offers 10% off monthly rentals in Italy and abroad.
CDP# 2245010: USA Archery ($20 annual recreational membership, link here). USA Archery partners with PerkSpot to provide Hertz discounts (link here). Logon link here (accessible after enrollment). Add'l Associations partner with PerkSpot such as USA Triathlon ($50 af) and Kiwanis. After joining you'll be given access.
CDP# 15757: United States Equestrian Federation (free to join for fans, registration link here) Hertz link here
CDP# (differs by Alumni Assoc): Your University Alumni Association (Annual fees differ. Some offer car rental codes - ymmv)
ASSOCIATION & UNION CDPs: (with Membership Requirements) These Associations require you to qualify to join. CDPs are provided since Hertz or Association publicly links to them
CDP# 10232: Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association (link here)
CDP# 11657: American Bankers Association (link here)
CDP# 13000: American Bar Association (link here) (Note: non-lawyers can join for $150 per year a/o Dec 2023, join here)
CDP# 42371: American Dental Association (link here)
CDP# 11356: American Institute of Architects (link here)
CDP# 12353: American Institute of Certified Public Accountants (link here)
CDP# 11635: American Medical Association (link here)
CDP# 166639: American Psychological Association (link here)
CDP# 1605257: Freelancers Union (Free to join; link here) Note: CDP shows as Working Today Inc which is the non-profit parent of Freelancers Union
CDP# 182806: National Association of Realtors (link here)
CDP# 50655: National Education Association (link here)
CDP# 2102007: Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Members (link here)
CDP# 205666: Union Plus (link here)
MILITARY CDPs: (require USA military affiliation). CDPs provided since Hertz or military organization publicly link to them
CDP# 83086: Association of the United States Army (pdf benefits link here)
CDP# 157299: Hertz Military rate (link here)
CDP# (use link): Navy Federal Credit Union
CDP# 71822: Reserve Organization of America (link here)
CDP# 77694: USAA (link here)
CDP# 1615021: USBA - Uniformed Services Benefit Association (link here)
CDP# 1264103: Veterans Advantage ($59.95 p/yr, enrollment link here - 20% discount promos provided often reducing price to $47.96 p/yr) (Hertz link here)
Discount Discussion - Discussion of PCs, RQs, CDPs (2017 Onward)
Jan 1, 2021, 9:29 pm
#151
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
Sorry but using a discount code is not fraud and does not invalidate the rental agreement in a way that would result in your personal or credit card insurance not covering a claim for damage or liability. While Hertz would certainly deny coverage for CDW included with a discount code if you were ineligible, there is no effect on private insurance, or credit card insurance. Let's not throw the "F" word around without any legal basis to support it.
Not agreeing with the truth doesn’t make it not so. People should be aware of the risk.
Sadly, this situation is one most people don’t learn until they have undergone it. People who have gone through an insurance claim process, especially a denial, will understand that insurance companies can be thorough and generally use any means to rightfully deny a claim; and in most cases it’s their fiduciary duty to do so.
Last edited by anteater; Jan 1, 2021 at 10:09 pm
Jan 8, 2021, 11:17 am
#152
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 611
I support your right to have an opinion but I will disagree with you and reiterate that it is indeed fraud and can be used as cause to deny an insurance claim.
Not agreeing with the truth doesn’t make it not so. People should be aware of the risk.
Sadly, this situation is one most people don’t learn until they have undergone it. People who have gone through an insurance claim process, especially a denial, will understand that insurance companies can be thorough and generally use any means to rightfully deny a claim; and in most cases it’s their fiduciary duty to do so.
Not agreeing with the truth doesn’t make it not so. People should be aware of the risk.
Sadly, this situation is one most people don’t learn until they have undergone it. People who have gone through an insurance claim process, especially a denial, will understand that insurance companies can be thorough and generally use any means to rightfully deny a claim; and in most cases it’s their fiduciary duty to do so.
In fact, I now have the full terms & conditions from AMEX Platinum rental car insurance, and using a discount code will definitely NOT INVALIDATE their insurance. Here is the actual language:
"
Excluded Actions
Benefits will not be paid under this Plan if the loss for which coverage is sought was directly or indirectly, wholly or partially, contributed to or caused by any of the following:
1. violation of the rental agreement with the Rental Company;
2. ..."
and so on.
Using a non-qualified CDP is not going to directly or indirectly cause an accident or loss.
So this answers my original question. The actual terms and conditions require that agreement violation to actually contribute or cause the loss. Using a CDP would not do this.
Jan 8, 2021, 3:01 pm
#153
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
You throw around "truth" and "fact" as if you have any data points to support it, which you don't. So please at least see that this is speculation at this point. I can find no data point in many years of this ever being an issue, that anyone was sued for an illegal act of fraud (breaking a rental contract term is not illegal btw - be careful with your words), or that CC insurance was denied due to misuse of a discount code.
In fact, I now have the full terms & conditions from AMEX Platinum rental car insurance, and using a discount code will definitely NOT INVALIDATE their insurance. Here is the actual language:
"
Excluded Actions
Benefits will not be paid under this Plan if the loss for which coverage is sought was directly or indirectly, wholly or partially, contributed to or caused by any of the following:
1. violation of the rental agreement with the Rental Company;
2. ..."
and so on.
Using a non-qualified CDP is not going to directly or indirectly cause an accident or loss.
So this answers my original question. The actual terms and conditions require that agreement violation to actually contribute or cause the loss. Using a CDP would not do this.
In fact, I now have the full terms & conditions from AMEX Platinum rental car insurance, and using a discount code will definitely NOT INVALIDATE their insurance. Here is the actual language:
"
Excluded Actions
Benefits will not be paid under this Plan if the loss for which coverage is sought was directly or indirectly, wholly or partially, contributed to or caused by any of the following:
1. violation of the rental agreement with the Rental Company;
2. ..."
and so on.
Using a non-qualified CDP is not going to directly or indirectly cause an accident or loss.
So this answers my original question. The actual terms and conditions require that agreement violation to actually contribute or cause the loss. Using a CDP would not do this.
Unauthorized use of a CDP would fall under breach of the rental contract.
I am only following up here so those who read this are aware of the risk.
You are more than welcome to continue to argue against the information I provided, but it won’t change the fact that insurance can deny a claim for this action. In the event that this event happens to you, you will be arguing against the insurance company - not me - and they don’t care what your interpretation of their contract is.
Hopefully, you don’t find out the hard way.
Jan 8, 2021, 3:09 pm
#154
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 611
An illegal act of fraud as opposed to.. a legal act of fraud?
Unauthorized use of a CDP would fall under breach of the rental contract.
I am only following up here so those who read this are aware of the risk.
You are more than welcome to continue to argue against the information I provided, but it won’t change the fact that insurance can deny a claim for this action. In the event that this event happens to you, you will be arguing against the insurance company - not me - and they don’t care what your interpretation of their contract is.
Hopefully, you don’t find out the hard way.
Unauthorized use of a CDP would fall under breach of the rental contract.
I am only following up here so those who read this are aware of the risk.
You are more than welcome to continue to argue against the information I provided, but it won’t change the fact that insurance can deny a claim for this action. In the event that this event happens to you, you will be arguing against the insurance company - not me - and they don’t care what your interpretation of their contract is.
Hopefully, you don’t find out the hard way.
I provided proof that at least for AMEX Platinum, they will not deny your claim based on what CDP you used with Hertz. That's the straight wording which says they will not exclude coverage unless the loss is caused by the violation of rental agreement, and using a discount code isn't going to cause directly or indirectly an accident or loss of the vehicle. So your statement is incorrect for AMEX Platinum.
Jan 8, 2021, 3:19 pm
#155
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
There's no fraud, There's no illegality. There is no legal precedent for this being considered anything fraud or illegal, regardless of what you say. If you actually have a real example of anybody being in legal trouble or a CC rental insurance denying for use of a wrong discount code, please share - otherwise you have nothing.
I provided proof that at least for AMEX Platinum, they will not deny your claim based on what CDP you used with Hertz. That's the straight wording which says they will not exclude coverage unless the loss is caused by the violation of rental agreement, and using a discount code isn't going to cause directly or indirectly an accident or loss of the vehicle. So your statement is incorrect for AMEX Platinum.
I provided proof that at least for AMEX Platinum, they will not deny your claim based on what CDP you used with Hertz. That's the straight wording which says they will not exclude coverage unless the loss is caused by the violation of rental agreement, and using a discount code isn't going to cause directly or indirectly an accident or loss of the vehicle. So your statement is incorrect for AMEX Platinum.
Deciding to interpret a contract to your liking does not change the basis of said contract or how it would be executed.
I have no dog in this fight. I don’t work for Hertz, I don’t work for an insurance company. I do though want to ensure those who read this thread are not provided incorrect information.
The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Part of your argument is based on a logical fallacy. Simply because I haven’t provided an example of an individual who was denied coverage because they used an unauthorized CDP does not mean my argument is wrong or false.
For all of those who are considering utilizing a CDP that they aren’t authorized to do so, please consider the risk should something go wrong: is it worth the risk that insurance would deny your claim?
Again, it doesn’t matter how you chose to interpret the contract as the insurance company is the entity that is entitled do that and may deny you coverage. If you disagree with them, that usually ends up in arbitration (or court), but you’d have to prove your case.
Jan 8, 2021, 3:39 pm
#156
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 611
For all of those who are considering utilizing a CDP that they aren’t authorized to do so, please know that AMEX Platinum will not invalidate your claim. I have posted the official terms above.
"
Excluded Actions
Benefits will not be paid under this Plan if the loss for which coverage is sought was directly or indirectly, wholly or partially, contributed to or caused by any of the following:
1. violation of the rental agreement with the Rental Company;
2. ..."
and so on.
Using a non-qualified CDP is not going to directly or indirectly cause an accident or loss.
The actual terms and conditions require that agreement violation to actually contribute or cause the loss. Using a CDP would not do this.
Hopefully this helps those with similar questions.
"
Excluded Actions
Benefits will not be paid under this Plan if the loss for which coverage is sought was directly or indirectly, wholly or partially, contributed to or caused by any of the following:
1. violation of the rental agreement with the Rental Company;
2. ..."
and so on.
Using a non-qualified CDP is not going to directly or indirectly cause an accident or loss.
The actual terms and conditions require that agreement violation to actually contribute or cause the loss. Using a CDP would not do this.
Hopefully this helps those with similar questions.
Jan 8, 2021, 4:39 pm
#157
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: On a plane or a beach
Programs: Yes
Posts: 3,156
For all of those who are considering utilizing a CDP that they aren’t authorized to do so, please know that AMEX Platinum will not invalidate your claim. I have posted the official terms above.
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Excluded Actions
Benefits will not be paid under this Plan if the loss for which coverage is sought was directly or indirectly, wholly or partially, contributed to or caused by any of the following:
1. violation of the rental agreement with the Rental Company;
2. ..."
and so on.
Using a non-qualified CDP is not going to directly or indirectly cause an accident or loss.
The actual terms and conditions require that agreement violation to actually contribute or cause the loss. Using a CDP would not do this.
Hopefully this helps those with similar questions.
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Excluded Actions
Benefits will not be paid under this Plan if the loss for which coverage is sought was directly or indirectly, wholly or partially, contributed to or caused by any of the following:
1. violation of the rental agreement with the Rental Company;
2. ..."
and so on.
Using a non-qualified CDP is not going to directly or indirectly cause an accident or loss.
The actual terms and conditions require that agreement violation to actually contribute or cause the loss. Using a CDP would not do this.
Hopefully this helps those with similar questions.
Your contract terms say "caused by any of the following" and the first clause is "violation of the rental agreement" Guess what unauthorized use of a CDP is?
Why would this be considered a violation of your rental agreement? Well, what does a CDP generally do? A CDP generally grants the individual discounted rates, additional benefits such as late return period, etc. These are incentives not offered in a standard rental contract unless you negotiate them, such as a CDP (whatever the source, e.g. your credit card perks, your employer). Now, if you are not a beneficiary of said CDP and you utilize it, you are receiving benefits for which you are not authorized. This is generally considered fraud and entering into a contract in bad faith. Both actions are generally considered grounds for violating a rental agreement.
I cannot participate in a discussion where you insist on not utilizing factual information or reason. I highly suggest you contact Hertz to verify that misuse of a CDP is not allowed. I then suggest you contact your CDP issuer and insurance company and propose the following: If I knowingly enter into a rental contract in bad faith by utilizing a CDP for which I am not authorized to use, would the insurance company consider this grounds to potentially deny a claim?"
Again, it does not matter what you believe the contract states and entitles you to; the only thing that matters is what the contract actually states and what the insurance company intended as they are the entity in the position to deny your claim. I am not going to attempt to find and read the entire terms of your rental insurance, but I guarantee you there will be a clause outside of the one you mentioned which specifically addresses fraud and or bad faith actions.
I am not sure why you would think that, pick your word of choice: cheating, stealing, deceiving -- Hertz on a rental contract would not potentially nullify your rental insurance.
To anyone considering doing this, please know you are putting yourself at risk to be denied in the event you are filing a claim for insurance.
edit: I just called AMEX Platinum card services and was transferred to their car rental insurance department and asked point blank, "If I were to enter a rental contract by utilizing a CDP code for which I was unauthorized and later needed to submit an insurance claim on said rental, would AMEX have any ground for denying this claim?" AMEX response: "Yes." For anyone who has insurance, please go ahead and call them and inquire as aboved. Said calls are all done on recorded lines
.If there are two things you should not mess with in this life it is the IRS and insurance companies. They have the power of the law behind them.
I guess calling the insurance company directly and asking them the question being posed here is considered "spewing nonsense", but the truth is hard for some to swallow. As for the ad hominem attacks, I believe that is against some FT rules as well as a demonstration of poor moral character. FlyerTalk is a place for honest and genuine discussion. Thank you.
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Jan 8, 2021, 4:42 pm
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Your contract terms say "caused by any of the following" and the first clause is "violation of the rental agreement" Guess what unauthorized use of a CDP is?
Why would this be considered a violation of your rental agreement? Well, what does a CDP generally do? A CDP generally grants the individual discounted rates, additional benefits such as late return period, etc. These are incentives not offered in a standard rental contract unless you negotiate them, such as a CDP (whatever the source, e.g. your credit card perks, your employer). Now, if you are not a beneficiary of said CDP and you utilize it, you are receiving benefits for which you are not authorized. This is generally considered fraud and entering into a contract in bad faith. Both actions are generally considered grounds for violating a rental agreement.
I cannot participate in a discussion where you insist on not utilizing factual information or reason. I highly suggest you contact Hertz to verify that misuse of a CDP is not allowed. I then suggest you contact your CDP issuer and insurance company and propose the following: If I knowingly enter into a rental contract in bad faith by utilizing a CDP for which I am not authorized to use, would the insurance company consider this grounds to potentially deny a claim?"
Again, it does not matter what you believe the contract states and entitles you to; the only thing that matters is what the contract actually states and what the insurance company intended as they are the entity in the position to deny your claim.
To anyone considering doing this, please know you are putting yourself at risk to be denied in the event you are filing a claim for insurance.
Why would this be considered a violation of your rental agreement? Well, what does a CDP generally do? A CDP generally grants the individual discounted rates, additional benefits such as late return period, etc. These are incentives not offered in a standard rental contract unless you negotiate them, such as a CDP (whatever the source, e.g. your credit card perks, your employer). Now, if you are not a beneficiary of said CDP and you utilize it, you are receiving benefits for which you are not authorized. This is generally considered fraud and entering into a contract in bad faith. Both actions are generally considered grounds for violating a rental agreement.
I cannot participate in a discussion where you insist on not utilizing factual information or reason. I highly suggest you contact Hertz to verify that misuse of a CDP is not allowed. I then suggest you contact your CDP issuer and insurance company and propose the following: If I knowingly enter into a rental contract in bad faith by utilizing a CDP for which I am not authorized to use, would the insurance company consider this grounds to potentially deny a claim?"
Again, it does not matter what you believe the contract states and entitles you to; the only thing that matters is what the contract actually states and what the insurance company intended as they are the entity in the position to deny your claim.
To anyone considering doing this, please know you are putting yourself at risk to be denied in the event you are filing a claim for insurance.
The scenario which they are thinking is that you violate the terms by, for example, driving off road and getting in an accident. Or, driving to another country not allowed which could cause the car to be seized. That type of scenario where you are violating the rental agreement could indeed directly or indirectly cause a loss and they will exclude. Using a discount code cannot directly or indirectly cause an accident or loss of the vehicle.
Like you said, what matters is the terms of the insurance contract, not what some random wacko says on the Flyertalk forum without any data points. I posted the actual terms of the insurance contract. You continue to spew your opinions.
Last edited by alchemista; Jan 8, 2021 at 4:50 pm
Jan 8, 2021, 5:08 pm
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Mod notice:
This thread is for the discussion of publicly available discount codes (CDP, RQ, PC and such) and not a discussion of the ethical rules nor legal views/opinions on using them. This is a warning to stay on-topic before I go ahead and close this thread and delete the above posts.
Thank you,
Jason8612 Hertz Mod
This thread is for the discussion of publicly available discount codes (CDP, RQ, PC and such) and not a discussion of the ethical rules nor legal views/opinions on using them. This is a warning to stay on-topic before I go ahead and close this thread and delete the above posts.
Thank you,
Jason8612 Hertz Mod
Jan 24, 2021, 7:36 am
#161
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There's at least one (there are likely others as well).
Mar 7, 2021, 1:33 am
#162
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I'm looking for a CDP that works on either the Hertz Australian or NZ or German website and gives me 20% off. The Amex Plat CDP does but I don't want to use that since I'm not eligible. Normally the Allied Business Network CDP also gives me 20% off but it is not doing so in this case. I can get 10% off using a frequent flyer CDP like United, but ideally I'd like 20% off.
I can get 20% off using the BIG SAVINGS CDP (1910304) and SOS SAVINGS CDP (2117157), but I'm not sure about eligibility. AutoSlash - do you know what makes one eligible for these? (I tried AutoSlash first as always but the rates through Autoslash are much higher than what I can get - $600 for a 9 day intermediate rental in SLC later this year which is insane vs. $350-400 that I can get - I guess maybe rates will drop over time.)
I can get 20% off using the BIG SAVINGS CDP (1910304) and SOS SAVINGS CDP (2117157), but I'm not sure about eligibility. AutoSlash - do you know what makes one eligible for these? (I tried AutoSlash first as always but the rates through Autoslash are much higher than what I can get - $600 for a 9 day intermediate rental in SLC later this year which is insane vs. $350-400 that I can get - I guess maybe rates will drop over time.)
Mar 7, 2021, 4:24 am
#163
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Allied Business Network is no longer allied with Hertz (forgive the pun). Our best recommendation is to find the best deal you can and then track it with us for a better deal. Prices often do drop over time. Nothing ventured, nothing gained as they say.
Mar 7, 2021, 11:18 am
#164
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Do you know eligibility for the BIG SAVINGS or SOS SAVINGS codes or are there other 20% off codes open to the public?
Mar 7, 2021, 11:25 am
#165
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Sorry, not sure. Keep in mind that not every CDP is just a blanket X% off. Sometimes one will work better than another. We've seen some give a 5% discount on one reservation and then a 35% discount on another. It just really depends. That's why our system is designed to do a deep-search each time.