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Carotthat Jun 4, 2023 4:40 am


Originally Posted by Jainzar (Post 35302427)
This should pretty much only affect OWR‘s and non-status holders on Light or Classic tickets. So barely anyone here.

Let's hope that...

Helsinki Flyer Jun 4, 2023 4:45 am

Yes indeed. Itīs of good value in economy too with 90 000 points. Only problem is that you canīt upgrade to business, as itīs an award.

Jainzar Jun 4, 2023 5:02 am


Originally Posted by Helsinki Flyer (Post 35302434)
Yes indeed. Itīs of good value in economy too with 90 000 points. Only problem is that you canīt upgrade to business, as itīs an award.

You can if you have sufficient vouchers :)

kauppias Jun 4, 2023 5:15 am


Originally Posted by cheesyfeet (Post 35302357)
So do I understand this correctly:

You can:

Use 4 SH vouchers and 120000 points and in return get a LH return trip in Premium Economy for two people?

yes thats correct

kauppias Jun 4, 2023 5:16 am


Originally Posted by Helsinki Flyer (Post 35302434)
Yes indeed. Itīs of good value in economy too with 90 000 points. Only problem is that you canīt upgrade to business, as itīs an award.


Originally Posted by Jainzar (Post 35302462)
You can if you have sufficient vouchers :)

And with cash or points at the airport 😀

Clarity_ Jun 4, 2023 5:35 am


Originally Posted by kauppias (Post 35302488)
And with cash or points at the airport 😀

Also with points before the airport if you get lucky with a CS agent ;)

kauppias Jun 4, 2023 6:06 am


Originally Posted by Clarity_ (Post 35302505)
Also with points before the airport if you get lucky with a CS agent ;)

Indeed that happens occassionally too 😀

Defs Jun 4, 2023 7:40 am

Also priority-ish boarding for silvers is gone with the current changes. Shame. Even less reasons to fly Finnair. I seriously consider, whether flying Finnair for even that one return flight that would give me gold is worth it, or if I would be better with Lufthansa or SAS.

mpkz Jun 4, 2023 8:03 am


Originally Posted by Defs (Post 35302718)
Also priority-ish boarding for silvers is gone with the current changes. Shame. Even less reasons to fly Finnair. I seriously consider, whether flying Finnair for even that one return flight that would give me gold is worth it, or if I would be better with Lufthansa or SAS.

Probably better off flying whatever is cheapest and best in terms of schedule whenever you fly and paying extra for whatever. Seriously. As a lower tier / non-status member, you get the same crappy service on all three, with minor differences (whether you get a free drink) that should not make a difference to any even borderline rational person who realizes that you can buy that drink from the airport at what is likely to be much less than the fare difference.

Getting Frequent Traveler (equivalent to Silver) on LH will cost you 6000-8000 euros if you fly with LH/M&M airlines since their system is revenue-based. You can get AY gold with 3 intercontinental roundtrips in economy flex, so if all you care about is the ease of getting status, LH is probably not the way to go..

Clarity_ Jun 4, 2023 8:17 am


Originally Posted by Defs (Post 35302718)
Also priority-ish boarding for silvers is gone with the current changes. Shame. Even less reasons to fly Finnair. I seriously consider, whether flying Finnair for even that one return flight that would give me gold is worth it, or if I would be better with Lufthansa or SAS.

Did Silver have priority boarding before? I didn't see any changes related to that lately, or did I miss something?

Superfast Jun 4, 2023 8:18 am


Originally Posted by Defs (Post 35302718)
Also priority-ish boarding for silvers is gone with the current changes. Shame. Even less reasons to fly Finnair.

Excuse me? What do you mean?

Superfast Jun 4, 2023 8:22 am

Silver is (or was) in group 3 :)

rvi Jun 4, 2023 8:24 am


Originally Posted by Clarity_ (Post 35302796)
Did Silver have priority boarding before? I didn't see any changes related to that lately, or did I miss something?

It was not mentioned anywhere I think, but you seemed to get group 3 always (hence prioritish).

Also, not mentioned anywhere, silvers tended to have automatic seat assignment about a day before OLCI, which you was then able to change without any fee. That seems to be gone now too.

Jainzar Jun 4, 2023 8:52 am


Originally Posted by mpkz (Post 35302761)
Getting Frequent Traveler (equivalent to Silver) on LH will cost you 6000-8000 euros if you fly with LH/M&M airlines since their system is revenue-based. You can get AY gold with 3 intercontinental roundtrips in economy flex, so if all you care about is the ease of getting status, LH is probably not the way to go..

Sorry, but no.

M&M‘s tier system is not revenue-based. For FT you need 30 flights or 35k status miles.

Also the new system starting 2024 is not revenue-based.

Only award miles are revenue-based.

If it is your way to go, depends on your goals.

Jorma Jun 4, 2023 9:48 am

Also on many outstations it was only "priority" (with the foldable stand) and "rest" lines. Silvers got prio there.


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