New AY ticket types from 31MAR20 . should we be worried ?
Jun 15, 2021, 5:10 am
#391
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
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At least, I assume, this will mean that op-ups won't get as much for free as they used to.
Jun 15, 2021, 5:25 am
#392
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
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Posts: 14,268
I was amazed by this statement:
but it looks like a poorly written statement and that Business flex is not stripped of benefits too.
A Flex ticket bought after 15 June doesnt include airport priority services.
Jun 15, 2021, 5:28 am
#393
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: TLL
Programs: AY Gold (OWS) TK Elite (*G)
Posts: 202
Im thinking about the same thing, I guess it depends on where you you usually travel, if north america, I would go for BA. My travels usually go east which is why I went for AY+ in the first place years ago, now Im leaning towards QR even though TK might be an option aswell. But I like OneWorld and wish to stay within the alliance.
QR doesnt really offer more than AY when it comes to status based benefits but the onboard product, lounges and network is light years away from what AY is or will ever become.
I must say Im deeply disapointed with AY right now.
QR doesnt really offer more than AY when it comes to status based benefits but the onboard product, lounges and network is light years away from what AY is or will ever become.
I must say Im deeply disapointed with AY right now.
Jun 15, 2021, 5:32 am
#394
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum
Posts: 219
If i understood correctly, this 150% point devaluation applies to the entire AYs network including SH. Tried to book HEL-AMS and BLIGHT shows 150% AY+ points, so now SH J tickets accumulates 6k basic points + of course status bonus. So we all just lost 25% AY+ future points.
And what this means for me? I used to prefer AY codes even it though it would be little more expensive because 200% points + status bonus. But now, this only makes BA, AA and IB even more attractive. Probably more of my money will go to them (+QR) in the future.
And what this means for me? I used to prefer AY codes even it though it would be little more expensive because 200% points + status bonus. But now, this only makes BA, AA and IB even more attractive. Probably more of my money will go to them (+QR) in the future.
Last edited by Extra Mile; Jun 15, 2021 at 5:42 am
Jun 15, 2021, 5:36 am
#395
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,087
I'm dissapointed again with AY communications and this AY-Ole who thinks AY customers are blind idiots.
It's okey if AY is out of money and no income and must create new income but these Oles who explain hphp, they really make me sick.
It's okey if AY is out of money and no income and must create new income but these Oles who explain hphp, they really make me sick.
Jun 15, 2021, 5:53 am
#397
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: AY+ Plat, TK *A Gold
Posts: 97
Jun 15, 2021, 6:55 am
#398
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Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
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Maybe our AY rep could explain a bit these new great and awesome improvements.
And of course Ole can also explain why is He taking AY's business in the wrong direction.
And of course Ole can also explain why is He taking AY's business in the wrong direction.
Jun 15, 2021, 6:57 am
#399
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 4,345
In general, as many have mentioned here, what is AY thinking - not only in this time but anytime. Business-lite is not the same as Economy-lite - no matter how lite they want to make their tickets, there's still some standard to maintain when you buy a business class ticket.
Hopefully they get sufficient shoot-down from their flyers that they improve the perks with such ticket class. Again penny wise, pound foolish or rather euro-cent wise, euro foolish
Looks like the different OW members following each other - first with QR, now AY, next...?
Cheers!
Jun 15, 2021, 7:43 am
#400
Join Date: Nov 2019
Programs: AY+
Posts: 195
I'm loving these enchantments by the way
Jun 15, 2021, 8:05 am
#401
Join Date: May 2015
Location: ATL/MCO
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I get not offering lounge access and and fast track, but not even priority check in FFS?! Go figure if OLCI doesn't work one is forced to stand in the Y line for their bp...
Jun 15, 2021, 8:05 am
#402
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, BT VIP, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
Posts: 8,864
Jun 15, 2021, 8:11 am
#403
Company Representative, Finnair
Join Date: Aug 2020
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Posts: 38
Hi,
150% accrual applies only to Business Light. Business Classic and Business Flex have 200 and 250% accrual respectively. Tier benefits apply regardless of the Ticket Type, eg. F+ members traveling in Business Light are eligible for priority service and lounge access, when those are offered again.
Huge apologies for the confusing message.
Greetings
Ela
150% accrual applies only to Business Light. Business Classic and Business Flex have 200 and 250% accrual respectively. Tier benefits apply regardless of the Ticket Type, eg. F+ members traveling in Business Light are eligible for priority service and lounge access, when those are offered again.
Huge apologies for the confusing message.
Greetings
Ela
Last edited by FinnairPlus_Ela; Jun 15, 2021 at 8:37 am
Jun 15, 2021, 8:14 am
#404
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: TLL
Programs: AY Gold (OWS) TK Elite (*G)
Posts: 202
apparently it is like this: if you get to a new tier, lets say from gold to plat, you will recieve the plat vouchers at once, but when your new year begins, you wont recieve another set as has been up until now. so basically the "bonus" set of vouchers one has gotten before are no more.
This is what I understood from a discussion on facebook in the comments under these "great news" about BLight tickets.
Jun 15, 2021, 8:19 am
#405
Join Date: May 2015
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apparently it is like this: if you get to a new tier, lets say from gold to plat, you will recieve the plat vouchers at once, but when your new year begins, you wont recieve another set as has been up until now. so basically the "bonus" set of vouchers one has gotten before are no more.
This is what I understood from a discussion on facebook in the comments under these "great news" about BLight tickets.
This is what I understood from a discussion on facebook in the comments under these "great news" about BLight tickets.