mpkz

Never had this problem with AY, even when I was crediting to QR. Was just booking a flight and tried to enter my QR number (still OWS after not flying them for 4 years) and seats showed up as costing 0. You should get in touch with Finnair.

remymartin

Indeed, in Y or J. Perhaps this is a bug in PE?

OldFruity

Called AY and 20 mins on the phone resulted in an escalation of the problem, so awaiting an email with a resolution.
Note that the Avios calculator on BA's website doesnt yet list PE on AY flights so probably a WIP all around.
Same problem will no doubt occur when I book the flight back in a few weeks.
OF
Edited to add that as of today 1 Jun BA calculator shows AY PE . Thanks to Head For Points Wed chat BA forum for that update.

matticusbond

​​​​​​​I recently flew JFK-HEL on the A330 sitting in 21A (bulkhead). I'm 6'1", and I found it virtually impossible to find a comfortable place for my feet. When I landed I immediately switched my return flight to 23D so so that I can have space to stretch my legs out in front of me, and can also recline at any time. We'll see how that works out

Also worth noting - the storage for bulkhead seats is abysmal. All the stuff that's on your seat when you board can't even fit in the little pocket on the wall, let alone any of your personal items you might want close by. The lavatory is also directly in front of 21 A/B, so if you do choose the bulkhead, choose the other side.

AY005

I'm an inch shorter and I think 21H was perfect. I like to rest my feet againts the wall.

I was prepared to travel in 51A exit seat but got upgraded to premium economy. Not sure if economy was sold out but it was a nice suprise.
Is that lavatory for premium economy passangers too? At least everybody used it and cabin crew didn't care.

Jorma

AY cabin crew has never cared even if someone walk from 58Ö to J toilets at door 1.

intuition

Not true! I was extremely important to guard the front lavs for crew only for awhile...

zxcv1

Confirmed by crew, economy pax can use J lavatories and come through the curtain. So now J pax must queue longer for toilets. No idea if this is a company wide enhancement or just that particular flight. A350.

SPBanker

Well, at least today on AY009 nobody came to biz lavs from behind the curtains. And the lavatory at the galley between C and PE (i.e. behind row 7 on the left side) was BIG.

intuition

Sometimes a "policy" on Finnair is just a lack of another policy.
Ie, unless they specifically stated "pax should stay in their respective cabin" most crew will not apply any efforts to guard that.
Some airlines are very good at guarding their premium cabins, not like AY.

Those who remember the old (A340/A330) cabins knows there used to be 4 toilets for 42 J pax. With the old-new cabins it became 3 toilets to 45 J pax. Already back then I argued that J lavs has a very different usage than Y lavs, and that lav-to-pax ratio is an important factor in business class.
For example, in J there is an expectation to be able to change clothes and shave and that requires a much higher ratio.
For some airlines I guess the lure of more pax and less "wasted" space for lavs is to strong, and it is all about the race to the bottom.

casper79

Flew jfk-hel in PE, the seat is extremely uncomfortable for me.

Ed Size

PE is just not what you think it is, it is economy with a little more room/service, not business with less service.

I did a few trips on PE in the past, it never worked on longer flights, on flights up to six/seven hours its mostly OK to me, even if I m pretty tall.

casper79

That there is nothing premium about became clear. The downside of PE is that they took room from business. Flight from JFK was sold out in business two weeks befor flight. Hope it triggers competition on the route.

OldFruity

Have just flown PE PRG -MEL and was disappointed after reading the AY hype. The OW fare was about 40% dearer than Economy . PRG -HEL was in Y as was SIN-MEL with QF. The seat was OK giving a little more room than the row behind in Y, and at least you got your own armrest plus an amenity pack. Food was very disappointing though and there was nothing 'crafted 'about the Carefully Crafted menu - unquote . A non descript starter, beef stew and potato and an unappetising small chocolate cake wrapped in cellophane (uneaten by both my neighbour and myself) was it for the main meal, whilst breakfast consisted of Gnocchi in a box! All very bland IMO and 'crafted', if that's the right word, by AY's accountants rather than anyone with knowledge / interest in providing decent food on a 13 hr flight. Service was functional, though i tried to sleep as much as possible, so I don't know the frequency of crew drink visits. But I shan't be spending the money on PE again and will stick with QR in Y, where in my recent experience the service has been very good, food quite for Y , status acknowledged ,and exit row seats bookable for free. Shame as I used to enjoy flying AY J pre covid when their pricing and product were competitive. I sat in the new J seat briefly after landing prior to disembarking and its not for me though each to their own.
OF

Carefully Crafted Gnocchi? (Ay hype) - I think not!

on22cz

Based on the outer colour of the box, I believe they meant krafted as from kraft paper. You must have misunderstood, but customers wished to see sustainable packaging.