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Old Jan 23, 2019, 9:42 am
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Safe - Immediate turnaround is easy, i.e. according to experience it is possible to reach departure gate quickly and without extra security check when doing same plane turnaround.
Intermediate - Immediate turnaround is doable, but requires e.g. extra security check.
Risky - Immediate turnaround not recommended. (See notes.)

TO KEEP THE WIKI AS COHERENT AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE USE "SAFE", "INTERMEDIATE" OR "RISKY" APPROPRIATELY! (I.e. no "Safe" for stations that require any kind of security or transfer check, not to mention going landside, etc.)

Immediate turnaround information for European AY destinations:

ACE: ?
AGP: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.) Details here from August 2022
ALC: Intermediate, Arrivals pour from jetbridge to "funnel pathway" which takes people to baggage claim, but one can look for "Transfer" signage and take escalator up to the gate area. No checkpoints.
AMS: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
ARN: Safe / Intermediate (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate, except gate 62 arrival pours to baggage claim. ATR flights may be riskier if one ends up with a bus gate.)
ATH: Intermediate at best
AYT: ?
BCN: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
BER: ?
BGO: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BLL: ?
BMA: Safe (Transfer door is before going to the terminal exit and boarding will not start before the incoming plane is empty.)
BRU: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BUD: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CDG: ?
CFU: ?
CHQ: Risky (To landside first and security needed. Long lines possibile.)
CPH: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CTA: ?
DBV: ?
DUB: ?
DUS: ?
EDI: ? (Security check required for sure.)
FCO: Intermediate / Risky. Bus transportation can cause long walks.
FNC: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight. Mobile BP not available, obtain a BP from HEL.)
FRA: Safe (Even with the bus from stand you can make it.)
FUE: ?
GDN: Risky (Providing it is ATR by Norra, apron position, walking / bussing to the arrivals, queue security (can be very long), sprint upstairs to the gate.)
GOT: Safe / Intermediate(At least on tube arrival, after exit from the tube to the terminal area, turn around and you are at the departure gate. No info on possible bus gates though.)
GVA: ?
GZP: ?
HAJ: Safe (Arrival at departure gate)
HAM: ?
HER: ?
IBZ: ?
INN: Intermediate / Risky (To landside first and then security. No airside transit.)
IVL: Safe, arrivals pour into the gate area.
JOE: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
JSI: ?
JTR: ?
JYV: ?
KAJ: ?
KAO: ?
KEF: ?
KEM: ?
KGS: ?
KOK: ?
KRK: Intermediate (AY rarely has a jetty position so bus, arrivals then go upstairs to departures for security, there is a fast track for OW elites - not well signposted - separate B/Pass scanner to the left)
KTT: ?
KUO: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
LHR: Intermediate (Need to go via Flight Connections to reclear security, which may take time depending on the time of the day.)
LIS: ?
LIN: Safe, arrivals pour into departures.
LJU: ?
LPA: ?
LYS: ?
MAD: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
MAH: ?
MAN: Intermediate/Risky, requires reclearing security.
MHQ: ?
MSQ: ?
MUC: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
MXP: Intermediate / Risky (Arrivals come into a different floor, transfer requires walking through a transfer point and distances are quite long.)
NAP: ?
NCE: ?
OSL: Safe / Intermediate (D gates pours directly to departures. E gates also pours to departure gate, follow transit arrow, automatic gate door will open during "normal" hours. IF door doesn't open go upstairs try the transfer security. Very rare reports of stand arrival with bus to exit, but should still be doable, security is usually fast and short distances.)
OUL: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
PFO: ?
PMI: ?
PRG: Safe (From arrivals walk up to departures to departure gate.)
PVK: ?
RHO: Risky (Arrivals pour to baggage claim, security check usually has long lines before you get to the departure hall.)
RIX: Risky. After deplaning, you walk to the terminal, but boarding is done with buses. My flight was delayed, and they started boarding before the plane was even there.
RMI: ?
RVN: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
SPU: ?
SZG: ?
TAY: ?
TFS: ?
TLL: Risky (May have a remote stand arrival, when departing flight has been boarded into a bus with boarding gate already closed.)
TLV: ?
TOS: ?
UME: ?
VAA: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
VBY: ?
VCE: ?
VIE: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
VNO: Risky. (Departing pax board bus when arriving pax still deplaning. Connection corridor available but not sure how straightforward it is).
VRN: ?
WAW: Safe (Arrivals pour to departure gate.)
ZRH: Safe (When exiting the bridge, you are under the gates and there are inclined speedwalks that bring back to the gates upstairs.)

Immediate turnaround information for selected longhaul AY destinations:

DEL: Intermediate (There's plenty of time for the obligatory visit to the transit desk and security. However, you'll need a self-printed visa confirmation to show the gate agent at HEL.)
DOH: ?
DXB: Intermediate (Follow "connections" to security downstairs and after that go to transfer desk if needed.)
JFK: Intermediate (Generous time with the new schedule, but you'll need to clear US immigration so ESTA or visa is needed.)
NRT: Intermediate (OLCI and mobile BP works, no need to go landside. There's transfer security, though.)
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Old Aug 6, 2015, 5:50 am
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If only that would have lasted, now 20210 NOK. (Or is there some trick to get this pricing?)
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Old Aug 6, 2015, 5:53 am
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Must be purchased 28 days prior to travel, not sure if minimum stays.
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Old Aug 6, 2015, 5:55 am
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OTA or Finnair's own site?
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Old Aug 6, 2015, 6:16 am
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OTA, Finnair's site doesn't seem to bring the fares up.

Here's what I found on Cheaptickets for random dates in Sep, bookable indeed.

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Old Aug 6, 2015, 6:22 am
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It was 492€ on Supersaver.

But now disappeared.
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Old Aug 6, 2015, 6:31 am
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Shame, glad I managed an OSL-LHR-JFK on BA though. Will be interesting to see if the fares are honoured.
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by lkrt
I did end up trying my luck – all booked into L/M. I'm happy.
Just returned from my CX HEL-MAN-HKG-SIN-HKG-AMS-HEL. Spent 30 hours in the ground. Totally recommend for anyone in need of 27 000 points for cheap.
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 10:08 am
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Originally Posted by lkrt
Just returned from my CX HEL-MAN-HKG-SIN-HKG-AMS-HEL. Spent 30 hours in the ground. Totally recommend for anyone in need of 27 000 points for cheap.
Haha. I'll flight with CX to Bali in Feb. How was CX's Y product? I'm already a bit scared for such a long flight in Y.
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 10:36 am
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Originally Posted by wkndtraveler
Haha. I'll flight with CX to Bali in Feb. How was CX's Y product? I'm already a bit scared for such a long flight in Y.
I was too, but it turned out to be quite bearable. Having previously flown longhaul mostly with AY, it was quite a refreshing experience, starting from the dinner menus distributed right after takeoff. Food tasted great, drink selection was extensive and the service was friendly.

When it comes to the hard product, their B777-300ER was nice as well. The seats were soft and comfortable (the part under your butt moves when you recline the seat!) and IFE had rather good content.

Overall, I was pleasantly surprised and extremely satisfied with CX Y product.
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by lkrt
Just returned from my CX HEL-MAN-HKG-SIN-HKG-AMS-HEL. Spent 30 hours in the ground.
30 hrs? That's too much. I wouldnt call it MR.
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 10:08 pm
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
30 hrs? That's too much. I wouldnt call it MR.
I know! CX wouldn't sell me a shorter connection for a reasonable price. This is why I told people it was a holiday trip but "normal" people seemed to have problems understanding why I'd go to SIN for 30 hours.
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 11:21 pm
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Originally Posted by lkrt
people seemed to have problems understanding why I'd go to SIN for 30 hours.
And I have problems understanding why some go boatrunning to STO for 5 hours

While on topic, you can also run to Rio for almost 30k points on AA who sell quite often cheap fares 600€ style, and get a nice vacation. Is it then a MR is your own business. With status you will get fairly OK seats too, layover in JFK depends
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Old Oct 13, 2015, 11:54 pm
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Originally Posted by lkrt
Just returned from my CX HEL-MAN-HKG-SIN-HKG-AMS-HEL. Spent 30 hours in the ground. Totally recommend for anyone in need of 27 000 points for cheap.
Matrix shows very attractive prices for such kind of flights. But you cannot book flights originating from HEL on CX own pages, and most of OTAs seem to give much higher prices. Where have you booked those flights? And many OTAs don't show the booking class, so with many it is hit or miss...
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Old Oct 14, 2015, 12:14 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
And I have problems understanding why some go boatrunning to STO for 5 hours
Good point here. ^
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Old Oct 14, 2015, 12:45 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
And I have problems understanding why some go boatrunning to STO for 5 hours
VERY MUCH AGREED!

Originally Posted by Purjelentaja
Matrix shows very attractive prices for such kind of flights. But you cannot book flights originating from HEL on CX own pages, and most of OTAs seem to give much higher prices. Where have you booked those flights? And many OTAs don't show the booking class, so with many it is hit or miss...
This trip I booked with Kilroy since the date wasn't for some reason bookable by any other OTA. It was 570 euros or so. Most of the other dates were on Supersaver, Travellink and Ebookers as well. Don't know what the current situation is but this was the situation in early August.

Yes, the booking class wasn't shown, but to my understanding, all these CX longhaul fares at approximately 500 euros are sold in L/M/H which is 100% on AY+. Of course, "no ought from is", but I'd be fairly confident they do book into L/M/H for now.
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