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Safe - Immediate turnaround is easy, i.e. according to experience it is possible to reach departure gate quickly and without extra security check when doing same plane turnaround.
Intermediate - Immediate turnaround is doable, but requires e.g. extra security check.
Risky - Immediate turnaround not recommended. (See notes.)

TO KEEP THE WIKI AS COHERENT AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE USE "SAFE", "INTERMEDIATE" OR "RISKY" APPROPRIATELY! (I.e. no "Safe" for stations that require any kind of security or transfer check, not to mention going landside, etc.)

Immediate turnaround information for European AY destinations:

ACE: ?
AGP: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.) Details here from August 2022
ALC: Intermediate, Arrivals pour from jetbridge to "funnel pathway" which takes people to baggage claim, but one can look for "Transfer" signage and take escalator up to the gate area. No checkpoints.
AMS: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
ARN: Safe / Intermediate (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate, except gate 62 arrival pours to baggage claim. ATR flights may be riskier if one ends up with a bus gate.)
ATH: Intermediate at best
AYT: ?
BCN: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
BER: ?
BGO: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BLL: ?
BMA: Safe (Transfer door is before going to the terminal exit and boarding will not start before the incoming plane is empty.)
BRU: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BUD: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CDG: ?
CFU: ?
CHQ: Risky (To landside first and security needed. Long lines possibile.)
CPH: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CTA: ?
DBV: ?
DUB: ?
DUS: ?
EDI: ? (Security check required for sure.)
FCO: Intermediate / Risky. Bus transportation can cause long walks.
FNC: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight. Mobile BP not available, obtain a BP from HEL.)
FRA: Safe (Even with the bus from stand you can make it.)
FUE: ?
GDN: Risky (Providing it is ATR by Norra, apron position, walking / bussing to the arrivals, queue security (can be very long), sprint upstairs to the gate.)
GOT: Safe / Intermediate(At least on tube arrival, after exit from the tube to the terminal area, turn around and you are at the departure gate. No info on possible bus gates though.)
GVA: ?
GZP: ?
HAJ: Safe (Arrival at departure gate)
HAM: ?
HER: ?
IBZ: ?
INN: Intermediate / Risky (To landside first and then security. No airside transit.)
IVL: Safe, arrivals pour into the gate area.
JOE: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
JSI: ?
JTR: ?
JYV: ?
KAJ: ?
KAO: ?
KEF: ?
KEM: ?
KGS: ?
KOK: ?
KRK: Intermediate (AY rarely has a jetty position so bus, arrivals then go upstairs to departures for security, there is a fast track for OW elites - not well signposted - separate B/Pass scanner to the left)
KTT: ?
KUO: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
LHR: Intermediate (Need to go via Flight Connections to reclear security, which may take time depending on the time of the day.)
LIS: ?
LIN: Safe, arrivals pour into departures.
LJU: ?
LPA: ?
LYS: ?
MAD: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
MAH: ?
MAN: Intermediate/Risky, requires reclearing security.
MHQ: ?
MSQ: ?
MUC: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
MXP: Intermediate / Risky (Arrivals come into a different floor, transfer requires walking through a transfer point and distances are quite long.)
NAP: ?
NCE: ?
OSL: Safe / Intermediate (D gates pours directly to departures. E gates also pours to departure gate, follow transit arrow, automatic gate door will open during "normal" hours. IF door doesn't open go upstairs try the transfer security. Very rare reports of stand arrival with bus to exit, but should still be doable, security is usually fast and short distances.)
OUL: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
PFO: ?
PMI: ?
PRG: Safe (From arrivals walk up to departures to departure gate.)
PVK: ?
RHO: Risky (Arrivals pour to baggage claim, security check usually has long lines before you get to the departure hall.)
RIX: Risky. After deplaning, you walk to the terminal, but boarding is done with buses. My flight was delayed, and they started boarding before the plane was even there.
RMI: ?
RVN: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
SPU: ?
SZG: ?
TAY: ?
TFS: ?
TLL: Risky (May have a remote stand arrival, when departing flight has been boarded into a bus with boarding gate already closed.)
TLV: ?
TOS: ?
UME: ?
VAA: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
VBY: ?
VCE: ?
VIE: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
VNO: Risky. (Departing pax board bus when arriving pax still deplaning. Connection corridor available but not sure how straightforward it is).
VRN: ?
WAW: Safe (Arrivals pour to departure gate.)
ZRH: Safe (When exiting the bridge, you are under the gates and there are inclined speedwalks that bring back to the gates upstairs.)

Immediate turnaround information for selected longhaul AY destinations:

DEL: Intermediate (There's plenty of time for the obligatory visit to the transit desk and security. However, you'll need a self-printed visa confirmation to show the gate agent at HEL.)
DOH: ?
DXB: Intermediate (Follow "connections" to security downstairs and after that go to transfer desk if needed.)
JFK: Intermediate (Generous time with the new schedule, but you'll need to clear US immigration so ESTA or visa is needed.)
NRT: Intermediate (OLCI and mobile BP works, no need to go landside. There's transfer security, though.)
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Ahoy, mileage runners! (Incl. immediate turnarounds)

Old Oct 19, 15, 1:18 am
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WAW: arrive same area, no security. The lounge is close by the gate, and one of the nicer Business class lounges.
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Old Oct 19, 15, 1:22 am
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Old Oct 20, 15, 11:25 am
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Originally Posted by delerium
Thanks for this excellent tip. I was able to book a weekend MR in November, HEL-CDG-GRU-CDG-HEL (AY, JJ - 14020 mi) for 560 and I get to see Brazil F1 race live!

Excellent for AA earnings (100%). Buzzing. Now if I only knew how to select TAM seat in advance.
Do you know are the "Comfort seats" on TAM 77W complimentary for OWS? What about immigration in Brazil, is it easy for EU-citizen? I am now seeing HEL-LHR-GRU-GIG with same day return for 570, though bookable only on BravoFly.fi (no previous experience).
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Old Oct 20, 15, 12:26 pm
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My only experience with Brazilian immigration was somewhat easier than average US immigration.
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Old Oct 20, 15, 12:37 pm
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I thought a "Brazilian immigration" would be down to the skin...
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Old Oct 21, 15, 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by HJP
Do you know are the "Comfort seats" on TAM 77W complimentary for OWS? What about immigration in Brazil, is it easy for EU-citizen? I am now seeing HEL-LHR-GRU-GIG with same day return for 570, though bookable only on BravoFly.fi (no previous experience).
I booked my flights also through BravoFly, got Amadeus PNR and was able to add my FF# through Finnair website.

I tried to search about the comfort seats and got some mixed messages. Apparently I can't even assign a seat until T-72... but I'll report how it went after my trip.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/other...ace-seats.html
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Old Oct 21, 15, 7:41 am
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Immigration in GRU: checking the passport,stamping,total process around one minute,always.Never had any questions asked.
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Old Oct 21, 15, 10:24 am
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lentodiilit.fi seems to be quoting that BA has 100€:ish same-day tickets on sale HEL-LHR. Sat or Sunday morning, back in the evening. Sounds tempting a segment-running opportunity...every weekend to London until Xmas...why not...sat night home since hotel prices in London are horrendous, then back on sunday again
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Old Oct 21, 15, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
lentodiilit.fi seems to be quoting that BA has 100€:ish same-day tickets on sale HEL-LHR. Sat or Sunday morning, back in the evening. Sounds tempting a segment-running opportunity...every weekend to London until Xmas...why not...sat night home since hotel prices in London are horrendous, then back on sunday again
I'm doing this this week, these were on sale last year as well. If you're doing this as a mileage run, doing it for the segment is really your only feasible choice but OSL/ARN/VAA/OUL would probably be cheaper and earn more award points (1000, 2000 with Accor promo).

These BA flights book into G and a return earns 914 Finnair Plus points. With the ongoing Accor promo, really not worth it for the points.

Although some like me might even see it as a weekend holiday trip.
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Old Oct 22, 15, 5:01 am
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Originally Posted by lkrt
This is a link to a Momondo search which should give you straight access to a number of OTAs to book a HEL-SIN fare for 470 euros or so. Other dates are available as well.
Well, didn't have any intention of taking any far east journeys yet, but for some reason my keyboard decided to type such a sequence of characters that now I have flights booked to Tokyo on CX in just a couple of weeks, ~500, outbound M, inbound L, ~28000 AY+ points. Not bad. But I know already now that the flights will be torture, don't even remember when flown LH in Y Unfortunately outbound via LHR was quite expensive on my date of travel, as otherwise HEL-LHR would have been A350. Now just have to wait till January and our winter vacation to experience that bird...

CX doesn't seem to offer online seat selection. Is there any way to get extra legroom seats booked, except by calling their CS? Or to book decent seats online in the first place?
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Old Oct 22, 15, 6:20 am
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Originally Posted by Purjelentaja
CX doesn't seem to offer online seat selection. Is there any way to get extra legroom seats booked, except by calling their CS? Or to book decent seats online in the first place?
Great, that's the spirit! Flying in Y is a breeze with CX and an aisle seat.

CX does offer online seat selection indeed. Extra legroom seats cost more, not sure about oneworld elites, though. MMB should do the trick.
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Old Oct 22, 15, 7:00 am
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I've managed to snag cx (J) seats on qr.com, not CX.

500 to TYO sounds interesting. Any more details?
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Old Oct 22, 15, 7:28 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
lentodiilit.fi seems to be quoting that BA has 100:ish same-day tickets on sale HEL-LHR. Sat or Sunday morning, back in the evening. Sounds tempting a segment-running opportunity...every weekend to London until Xmas...why not...sat night home since hotel prices in London are horrendous, then back on sunday again
There or some dates with afternoon return, so the whole trip can be completed between 0740-1610. 100% AAdvantage earning (2302EQM).
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Old Oct 22, 15, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by remymartin
500 to TYO sounds interesting. Any more details?
I'm finding something around that all the time. Before I have had to skip because of not earning anything for AA, but now that I'm not going to requalify platinum and they have closed the challenge I might even take these next time. For example, I'm finding 14.-16.11. 485.
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Old Oct 22, 15, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by remymartin
I've managed to snag cx (J) seats on qr.com, not CX.

500 to TYO sounds interesting. Any more details?
Several alternatives around 500 return, booking class L or M, for already next week, now also for example: http://www.momondo.fi/flightsearch/?...false&NA=false, or https://www.google.com/flights/#sear...-LHRHEL1AY3126 and then onwards to Cheapoair.com, and following weeks as well.

qr.com? It doesn't seem to open any page. I've tried qatar and finnair web pages, both unable to open seat map. And the same thing with CX own web page, no online seat selection available. Extra legroom seats should be free for OW Emerald, but this far found the only way to do it by calling their CS in HKG. Haven't found any way contact them online, except twitter, tried, with no reply. Any good advice how to get contact with them as to my experience calling to Far Eastern customer service in English is a pain?
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