warakorn

The fact is that the Finnish border guard agent is stopping you - not his Russian counterpart.

You might think it is logical.
Think twice!
The traveller might be a dual citizen - owning a passport which offers visa free access to Russia.
I believe Russia still offer visa-free travel for Ukrainians.

Obviously a blank Ukrainian passport has virtually no value when entering or exiting Finland.

Why would traveller (an EU citizen) reveal to the Finnish border guard agent that he is a dual citizen?
Who gives that border guard the right to dig into this?

* for the record: I am aware that it is illegal to both dual nationality (Germany, Ukraine).

And again:
Why should that matter to the Finnish border guard agent? Who gives the Finnish government the right to forcefully prohibit an EU citizen to leave the EU country Finland?

Steve_Hun

AFAIK, this has been the admittance policy since day 1 of the premium lounge.

Courmisch

Hey, I have an idea: lets limit it to Oneworld Emerald passengers with a same-day Oneworld First class ticket. All two of them connecting to First class in another European airport.

That should fix the crowding issue

jouhka

...First customers on OCT10 2016 flying F on QR (if it is a 4-class service and not to Europe but DOH)? Premium lounge deserted until then

aysoo

I just arrived from LHR with OUL connection and had a 8min discussion with the Non schengen lounge crew to let me in. She said the TC are updated and not published yet, this is a lounge only when you are in Non Schengen,... ? She scanned my LHRHEL boarding pass and let me in... I doubt it, but I am in ...

FFlash

If they revised the T&C it would be really good to require a boarding pass of incoming/outgoing non-Schengen flight to skip all the babble and semi-abuse of the scarce lounge space we have in the premium side.

BTW now that Silvers are out, the J side lounge will remain rather empty I guess - then would it be any stupid idea to get your food&drink and carry them over to J side to enjoy the tranquility?

warakorn

Without a doubt you were in non-Schengen part of the airport. Otherwise, it would have not been physically possible for you to appear on the non-Schengen entry desk.

Maybe you should have asked them to print out the rules.
My assumption that the lounge dragons are making up the rules.

intuition

I guess we will still have to see how the load is after the new lounge rules are applied, but it is certainly reasonable and doable to move to the non-premium side if the premium side is crowded, once you have acquired your consumables.

If they are updating the T&C, I hope they make the platinum perk of arrival access official.
CX offers arrival lounges to their higher tier members and first class holder, and while the arrival lounge in HKG is nothing to write home about, they run a very efficient shower section. This service is heaven sent.

heatsink

On a less serious note, I have lately noticed a lot of confused foreigners in the sauna area. They're very obviously just going to the bathroom and not expecting to run into a naked man sitting in a chair with only a towel covering him (me).

This is very distracting.

reflektia

I never use towel. Maybe that's why they usually turn around at door

aysoo

Now on my way to schengen i spoke to the customs guy. He agreed on what we are discussing. You are only allowed to go to Schengen with a valid boarding pass, the airline issued the visa or allowance for travel outside schengen. The paragraph 102 is not finished yet, which means you are also allowed to go to Burger King as a valid reason.
But officially not... Thats what he said.. Honestly. And then he started to complain about my misshaped passport and forced me to remove sth which made it kind of invalid, which made me make an emergency appointment tonget a new one on 15.4 which hopefully will arrive before 20.5 when i have a nice C and J LHR SIN SYD flight.. Grmpfl

heatsink

You don't use a towel even in the break room? You're braver than I am

(Obviously I don't wear a towel in the sauna, though.)

miamiflyer8

Is the sauna accessible from the Business side?

aysoo

Yes

intuition

If it is so effective, I will start walking around in the premium lounge without a towel.