Important Change to Your Fairmont President's Club Membership
Jan 22, 2018, 8:40 am
#121
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
Programs: Free Agent
Posts: 232
Are the March 1, 2018 certs good to February 28, 2019 OR do they expire July 1, 20018?
Jan 22, 2018, 9:03 am
#122
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Canada
Programs: *G
Posts: 2,304
Qualifying Stays
I am trusting that the definition of a "qualifying" stay does not become an issue. From the small print:
"Qualifying rates are determined by Fairmont in its sole discretion and can be deemed non-qualifying at any given time without prior notice" and ".....any stays booked through any third party online travel channel website (including, but not limited to: HotelTonight.com, Booking.com, Rocketmiles.com, Priceline.com, Expedia.com, Hotels.com, Hotwire.com, Lastminute.com, Travelocity.com, Orbitz.com, Travelweb.com) are considered as not qualifying and will not be eligible for credit".
It's the deeming a rate non-qualifying without prior notice that has me concerned.
"Qualifying rates are determined by Fairmont in its sole discretion and can be deemed non-qualifying at any given time without prior notice" and ".....any stays booked through any third party online travel channel website (including, but not limited to: HotelTonight.com, Booking.com, Rocketmiles.com, Priceline.com, Expedia.com, Hotels.com, Hotwire.com, Lastminute.com, Travelocity.com, Orbitz.com, Travelweb.com) are considered as not qualifying and will not be eligible for credit".
It's the deeming a rate non-qualifying without prior notice that has me concerned.
Jan 22, 2018, 9:10 am
#123
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Kan@da
Programs: Anything with sweet spots
Posts: 1,790
Nice! I will make good use of these certs 
Jan 22, 2018, 9:15 am
#124
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kirkland, WA
Programs: AS 75K,UA Gold 1.6MM, Hilton Dia, Marriott LT Plat, Hyatt Glb, Natl Exec, Hertz 5*
Posts: 3,657
Heh, two stays? That's easy. I would have expected to see some kind of earning ladder like one free night for every 10 nights Jan 1 - July 1st for all so they could drive more upside. The biggest issue I have is for 2017 earned Platinums at least, there is no additional earning benefit for staying the first half of the year for the first 30 nights. You already got your certs. This is incentive for two stays but that's all. The rest of my stays still go to Marriott. Fairmont Dallas lost 100 nights/yr from me and I just brought on 4+ additional full time travelers to my team and I have steered them all away from that property as well. So that is 500 nights gone there. Believe me, they are sad about it but there is nothing they can do and nothing I can ask of them as a property. Even guaranteed Gold every night would not do it.
Post 7/1, it is the bad things I see and hear about the Accors program which also puts away Fairmont. Fairmont is an upscale brand but will have a bottom of the barrel program? Heck, still lounge access is not provided at Fairmont. I am loving the complimentary lounge access (and drinks) at the competitor high end property I am staying at now. It's just a longer walk.
Post 7/1, it is the bad things I see and hear about the Accors program which also puts away Fairmont. Fairmont is an upscale brand but will have a bottom of the barrel program? Heck, still lounge access is not provided at Fairmont. I am loving the complimentary lounge access (and drinks) at the competitor high end property I am staying at now. It's just a longer walk.
Last edited by dmodemd; Jan 22, 2018 at 9:20 am
Jan 22, 2018, 10:27 am
#125
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: SJC/SFO
Posts: 295
See 55sec of home page video of http://www.fpcmembersite.com/ "All e-cert issued in 2018 will be valid till 2/28/19
Jan 22, 2018, 10:32 am
#126
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Menlo Park, CA, USA
Programs: UA 1MM 0P, AA, DL, *wood, Lifetime FPC Plat., IHG, HHD
Posts: 6,912
I got this email as well, I think it probably for regular plats and for example the lifetime plats probably don't have to do the stays. But, we'll CERTAINLY do the stays and burn certs this year at the Orchid, Banff, Toronto, Montreal and probably Scottsdale.
Jan 22, 2018, 1:05 pm
#127
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,178
Any thoughts on passion benefits for this year? Are we getting them twice as well?
Jan 22, 2018, 1:23 pm
#130
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Fairmont Plat, IHG Spire, SPG Gold, WS Gold, Hertz PC, National E Elite,
Posts: 2,768
Jan 22, 2018, 2:08 pm
#131
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: All Accor Plat, 1865 Voyager, AE E35K, HH Gold,Hyatt, Hrtz Gold, Marriott Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 1,670
Ahead of the curve. I already have one eligible stay this year. I need them to recognize the AMEX code to get plat again. Anyone know if that will be an issue?
Jan 23, 2018, 6:27 pm
#132
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto
Programs: UA 1K, AC MM E75, Marriott LT Ti, IHG Dia Amb, Hyatt Glob
Posts: 15,521
I'm also very happy that I have one stay done at Fairmont SIN a few weeks ago, and am going back in mid-Feb so that will count as my second stay. Sadly, Fairmont isn't in very many of the places I go to.
Jan 23, 2018, 10:21 pm
#133
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Programs: AC 75K, Hertz President’s Circle, Accor Gold, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 10,069
No email here yet but I should be Platinum again and have 2 stays booked from before the announcement of the demise of the program so should do well!
Jan 24, 2018, 7:13 am
#134
Join Date: Oct 2012
Programs: Dynasty Frequent Flyer (Elite Plus),Accor Platinum
Posts: 1,866
I think its more to do with the glaring hole In the program between January to July Where You Have platinum membership but for staying at those hotels during the 6 months You wouldnt be awarded any of the old program certs. Now they have filled that gap. And while personally it would benefit Accor plat members to get free cert nights or suite upgrades confirmed on bookings In say 2019 it wouldn't work well for Accor. I hope I am wrong but likely this is it for certs as from July 2018 they wont and can't treat members from both programs differently because 1 program will not exsist from July 2018.
Last edited by tris06; Jan 24, 2018 at 7:31 am
Jan 24, 2018, 9:57 am
#135
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YYZ
Programs: All Accor Plat, 1865 Voyager, AE E35K, HH Gold,Hyatt, Hrtz Gold, Marriott Gold, NEXUS
Posts: 1,670
I can find uses for them though, visiting my daughter in Ottawa or weekends in Quebec etc.