Important Change to Your Fairmont President's Club Membership
#166
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I would say many, many more. Fairmont is tiny compared to Accor.
#167
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So let me get this straight. We were Accor Plat in 2016-2017, and will be Accor Plat from July 2018 to December 2019. But they do not want to give us Plat between Jan 2018 and June 2018, leaving a 6-month hole in this 3+ year period. And at which hotel chain do they think we will stay at during those 6 months as a result?
I did not intend to stay in Accor hotels in the first six months of this year regardless, so I have no reason to care. But seriously? Who is making this stuff up?
I did not intend to stay in Accor hotels in the first six months of this year regardless, so I have no reason to care. But seriously? Who is making this stuff up?
#170
Join Date: Dec 2013
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This isn't correct. I got my Accor Plat card sometime in the last 2 weeks and the card is valid until Dec 2018 and I haven't stayed at a single Accor property, so definitely didn't earn the status. I also got a nice passport wallet with the card. Finally, a gift I can use!
Not that I care in any way shape or form...
#171
Join Date: Feb 2000
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My current status is Gold so I was definitely downgraded from Platinum. The reason is because I stayed at Accor properties 11 nights during 2017 so they recalculated my status the "normal" way and it comes out to Gold. At least that is what Accor help desk explained to me. I guess if I had not stayed at all, I would be Platinum?
Not that I care in any way shape or form...
Not that I care in any way shape or form...
#172
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Menlo Park, CA, USA
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May be the wrong place for this question but i'll give it a shot
Is there even a Fairmont Platinum reservations desk anymore? Every-time I call the numbers I used to use and reach parties I was familiar with I'm getting people who don't understand how to use certificates and then others who say, "well, you'll just have to call the hotel directly".
Has that group been totally disbanded at this point and what is the best plan to try and have people do things like they need to be done?
example. For an orchid reservation, I'm now after 10 years being told I have to book a full ocean view to upgrade to an executive suite.
Also, for the first time in about eight years now I'm being told that I can't make a reservation to use a suite upgrade until they all hit my account in March, but I've already prequalified and or have them due to lifetime status. And I would have re-quialified regardless.
Is there even a Fairmont Platinum reservations desk anymore? Every-time I call the numbers I used to use and reach parties I was familiar with I'm getting people who don't understand how to use certificates and then others who say, "well, you'll just have to call the hotel directly".
Has that group been totally disbanded at this point and what is the best plan to try and have people do things like they need to be done?
example. For an orchid reservation, I'm now after 10 years being told I have to book a full ocean view to upgrade to an executive suite.
Also, for the first time in about eight years now I'm being told that I can't make a reservation to use a suite upgrade until they all hit my account in March, but I've already prequalified and or have them due to lifetime status. And I would have re-quialified regardless.
#173
Join Date: Dec 2005
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Is there even a Fairmont Platinum reservations desk anymore? Every-time I call the numbers I used to use and reach parties I was familiar with I'm getting people who don't understand how to use certificates and then others who say, "well, you'll just have to call the hotel directly".
#174
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Join Date: Feb 2002
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I have dealt with
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for a recent reservation like I always have in the past and it worked well as usual for me. Will let you know if anything goes wrong when i check in later today!
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for a recent reservation like I always have in the past and it worked well as usual for me. Will let you know if anything goes wrong when i check in later today!
#175
Join Date: Nov 2008
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The helpful desk are somewhere in the maritimes. I hope they dont get rid of that call centre. Those people are always so helpful and nice.
#176
Join Date: Jan 2011
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#177
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kirkland, WA
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Just had my last paid stay at Fairmont probably. I just clocked in the obligatory two stays (which I intentionally kept to one night each despite having two suite upgrades available) to get my 2nd set of certs. I have a number of new team mate travellers that joined my project and I have steered them away from Fairmont due to the program change. They are all working on SPG or Hilton status now. This Accors program is doing HUGE damage to Fairmont, it's sad. I will just be burning my free nights and certs at this point.
I have been working up my Marriott points to work through lifetime tiers and now will be re-upping my Hilton Diamond this year to work that towards lifetime as well.
I have been working up my Marriott points to work through lifetime tiers and now will be re-upping my Hilton Diamond this year to work that towards lifetime as well.
#178
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While at the Fairmont SIN last week, the Guest Relations Manager gave me a 20 page booklet entitled:
Table of Contents includes:
Member Example!
What they don't tell you is those 2000 pts can't be used if the hotel is having a sale! I used to have 2000 Accor pts (from a service issue) and tried to use them with no success. I converted them into 1000 Aeroplan miles before they expired.
FAIRMONT PRESIDENT'S CLUB MEMBERS' GUIDE TO LE CLUB ACCORHOTELS
Understanding Your New Loyalty Program
Understanding Your New Loyalty Program
- Welcome
- Your Status
- Your New Program
- A Member Example
- Your Fairmont Experience
- Your Le Club AccorHotels Benefits
- The Luxury Portfolio of AcoorHotels
- Meet Sofitel
- Meet MGallery
- Meet Pullman
- Timeline of Program Integration
- Contact Us
Member Example!
What they don't tell you is those 2000 pts can't be used if the hotel is having a sale! I used to have 2000 Accor pts (from a service issue) and tried to use them with no success. I converted them into 1000 Aeroplan miles before they expired.
Last edited by margarita girl; Feb 25, 2018 at 10:50 pm Reason: add Member Example
#179
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That page is both hilarious and sad.
So let's see: The best example the marketing team could come up with was earning points worth ~$600USD (though one would probably have to discount that figure due to the various restrictions such as not being able to apply the points towards certain "sale" rates).
As a FPC Plat she would've received $200USD in dining certs, a free night cert (with minimal restrictions) and a confirmed upgrade to a suite at time of booking on up to 15 nights per year.
I'm pretty sure a semi-smart 5th grader would be able to figure out which option is better.
While they're publishing such nonsense, maybe they could add the following:
"Maryam really enjoys the excitement that comes with the uncertainty of each stay: Will she get upgraded from the room overlooking the dumpster to the room overlooking the parking lot this time? Or even a room on a higher floor? The predictable benefits of the FPC program never gave her this level of excitement.
Furthermore, the Accor program has allowed her to develop her soft skills: Arguing with front desk staff during each stay whether or not a late check-out is available has improved her negotiation skills and boosted her self-esteem."
Last edited by Jasper2009; Feb 26, 2018 at 6:01 am
#180
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That is funny I was talking to the bartenders at the Chateau Montebello where we were this weekend (great stay and property) about what they thought of the Accor take-over. I was talking about the differences between the two programs and how the certificates let me stay in some really great rooms, how everything will change yada yada yada and an another employee (front office I think) must of overheard me. She came a few minutes later with the same brochure "in case I didn't know how the new program worked". I told her I was Accor plat and I knew how it worked .
Last edited by Admiral Ackbar; Feb 26, 2018 at 8:04 pm