Jun 17, 2019, 11:50 pm
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For Latest Information
- Agreement has been reached. BR expects to resume full schedule by 20 July for flights out of TPE
- Strike Information Page:
- English: https://www.evaair.com/en-global/emer/strikeinfo.html Chinese
- 中文: https://www.evaair.com/zh-tw/emer/strikeinfo.html
- Flight Status Page:
- Direct link to cancelled flight listing up until 21 July - double check the link below to confirm
- https://booking.evaair.com/flyeva/EVA/B2C/flight-status.aspx?lang=en-tw
- News Releases (Chinese as it is more current): https://www.evaair.com/zh-tw/about-eva-air/news/travel-news/?page=1&filter=Travel+Advisory
- Hello Kitty Services suspended during the strike
- In-Flight services are streamlined + no duty-free sales due to reduced staffing onboard
- Coolfish on how to handle other carriers' award tickets (ticket number does not start with 695)
- Krispykrme's answers on award and codeshare tickets issued by BR and other carriers
- Yoonny's experience with United MileagePlus award redemption
- Partial refund calculation and EU261 discussions
- WChou's wife's experience at BR office near SFO
- Kremmen's experience at BKK on a mixed TG->BR ticket
- 2019/07/06 - Agreement was reached, full schedule is expected by the end of July
- 2019/07/02 - negotiation session did not resolve the strike. Strike continues
- 2019/06/29 Evening - more disagreements during negotiations to hammer out new agreement. Strike continue
- 2019/06/29 3:39PM - Union announced the FAs voted to end the strike, pending new agreement being drafted and signed
- 2019/06/29 12:00PM, flight attendant vote to determine whether to continue the strike concluded
- 2019/06/20 2:09PM, strike announced starting 16:00 TPE Time (GMT +8) on 6/20
- 2019/06/20 1PM TPE Time: Negotiation Session started and was broadcast live. Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjzS5W_LaIM and the dramatic moment is at 1:08 into the video
Flight Attendants Strike Vote
Jun 29, 2019, 7:59 pm
#466
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 1
as much as i hate most unions, i find that it's even worse when the exec do not stick up to their employees when it's needed and instead blame them for certain issues.
from what i can read. it's not at all that much what the FA are asking for, is this really worth the 4 weeks of lost business?
from what i can read. it's not at all that much what the FA are asking for, is this really worth the 4 weeks of lost business?
Jun 29, 2019, 8:19 pm
#467
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
Programs: AA, AS, CI, DL, UA
Posts: 2,898
as much as i hate most unions, i find that it's even worse when the exec do not stick up to their employees when it's needed and instead blame them for certain issues.
from what i can read. it's not at all that much what the FA are asking for, is this really worth the 4 weeks of lost business?
from what i can read. it's not at all that much what the FA are asking for, is this really worth the 4 weeks of lost business?
If 4 weeks lost of business can destroy this professional union I don't see why EVA would not do it.
Jun 29, 2019, 8:25 pm
#468
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: DFW
Programs: AA (Lifetime Gold, 1MM),UA(Premier Silver), Hilton(Diamond), Marriott (LTT), Hertz (PC)
Posts: 230
as much as i hate most unions, i find that it's even worse when the exec do not stick up to their employees when it's needed and instead blame them for certain issues.
from what i can read. it's not at all that much what the FA are asking for, is this really worth the 4 weeks of lost business?
from what i can read. it's not at all that much what the FA are asking for, is this really worth the 4 weeks of lost business?
That same union was formed by particular politicians and is well known for the two previous CI strikes. As a customer I want stability over anything else and cannot accept the high probability of future strikes.
If Eva doesn't crush this union I would never buy Eva tickets again. It is as bad as that. In my opinion most FAs involved in the strike were used by the union so in a way they were also victims. (of course they are responsible for their poor judgement, too.)
Jun 29, 2019, 10:23 pm
#469
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: San Francisco, CA
Programs: United Plat
Posts: 501
Local news reported that 3 of the 18 have returned to work. EVA has confirmed it but did not say these three ladies would not be punished for leaving the flights.
Jun 29, 2019, 10:40 pm
#470
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Bangkok
Programs: QR - Gold, EY - Gold
Posts: 37
BR flights on 13 July
I am flying BR62 (BKK-TPE) and BR16 (TPE-LAX) on 13 July. I notice these flights are not listed in the most recent cancellation list (12 July). How likely will we get effected?
Jun 29, 2019, 11:51 pm
#471
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
Programs: AA, AS, CI, DL, UA
Posts: 2,898
Jun 30, 2019, 12:13 am
#472
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
Programs: AA, AS, CI, DL, UA
Posts: 2,898
According to EVA, besides the 18 FAs who refused to fly on 6/20 prior to 4pm reporting time (3 since returned on duty), 7 FAs refused to continue working after 2pm announcement while they are still on simulator training for another plane type. These 25 FAs have since been marked dereliction on 6/20 and will be under further investigation.
7/2 will be the next meeting between EVA and union. Personally don't see EVA backing off on the union.
7/2 will be the next meeting between EVA and union. Personally don't see EVA backing off on the union.
Jun 30, 2019, 12:29 am
#473
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Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,971
I really hope public opinion stays with EVA. I think this is really a lesson for politics in Taiwan. The politicians (on both sides) caved in to public opinions and demonstrations over the years. It is kind of refreshing to see an organization sticking with rules and order and long term well-being for a change.
Jun 30, 2019, 4:14 pm
#475
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: California
Posts: 1,129
All of you who say they'll never buy another ticket again if EVA is unsuccessful in destroying the union are real ignorant of reality. AA, UA, DL, WN are all heavy union shops and moreso than EVA. AA and WN have experienced work actions this year that have hurt their customers. Management has not been able to completely squash American aviation labor unions. But it's not due to lack of trying. In particular, WN has refused to agree to a contract with its mechanics for 12 long years until just last month which coincidentally was after a couple of months of alleged mechanic work slowdowns. All of the American carriers have been trying to outsource to cheaper labor outside of the USA despite union protests against that.
All that being said, I fully expect both sides to play full-on hardball and hope both sides realize how important this is. Neither side should back down at all for the inconvenience of the customers. The ramifications of this labor dispute will be long lasting and widespread for Taiwan no matter how this dispute is resolved. The FA union looks like it's going to blink first, but I hope they realize the long term ramifications of throwing in the towel and applying for Starlux.
All that being said, I fully expect both sides to play full-on hardball and hope both sides realize how important this is. Neither side should back down at all for the inconvenience of the customers. The ramifications of this labor dispute will be long lasting and widespread for Taiwan no matter how this dispute is resolved. The FA union looks like it's going to blink first, but I hope they realize the long term ramifications of throwing in the towel and applying for Starlux.
Jun 30, 2019, 9:42 pm
#476
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: CAN, LAX, TPE
Programs: AA, AS, CI, DL, UA
Posts: 2,898
All that being said, I fully expect both sides to play full-on hardball and hope both sides realize how important this is. Neither side should back down at all for the inconvenience of the customers. The ramifications of this labor dispute will be long lasting and widespread for Taiwan no matter how this dispute is resolved. The FA union looks like it's going to blink first, but I hope they realize the long term ramifications of throwing in the towel and applying for Starlux.
Starlux will not pick up any of these FAs. As much as they need FAs they won’t take any that have potential history of causing trouble. The only one already known was accepted before the strike begun and I am quite certain that she won’t get promoted at all in the future (if she doesn’t leave herself) with the sorry show she displayed at TPE T2.
Jun 30, 2019, 10:34 pm
#477
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Bay Area
Programs: UA 1k now; AA (no status); HY Diamond; SPG Platinum
Posts: 707
as much as i hate most unions, i find that it's even worse when the exec do not stick up to their employees when it's needed and instead blame them for certain issues.
from what i can read. it's not at all that much what the FA are asking for, is this really worth the 4 weeks of lost business?
from what i can read. it's not at all that much what the FA are asking for, is this really worth the 4 weeks of lost business?
1. No one management has the power to grant board of director seats? Show me a law that is is within power of management?
2. To ask for higher per diem than one of the most profitable company in the world is too much
3. To actually board aircraft and then leave the plane to joint strike is a safety issue
The attendant has no regard for others and deserves to be fired.
Jul 1, 2019, 1:37 am
#478
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Gold Coast
Programs: SQ*G, Accor Silver
Posts: 5
Called EVA today regarding cancelled flight, answered on first ring. Very helpful (and apologetic) rep re-booked us on an OK replacement, but then called back a few hours later with an even better solution. All things considered, hard to imagine a better outcome.
