Jun 17, 2019, 11:50 pm
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For Latest Information
- Agreement has been reached. BR expects to resume full schedule by 20 July for flights out of TPE
- Strike Information Page:
- English: https://www.evaair.com/en-global/emer/strikeinfo.html Chinese
- 中文: https://www.evaair.com/zh-tw/emer/strikeinfo.html
- Flight Status Page:
- Direct link to cancelled flight listing up until 21 July - double check the link below to confirm
- https://booking.evaair.com/flyeva/EVA/B2C/flight-status.aspx?lang=en-tw
- News Releases (Chinese as it is more current): https://www.evaair.com/zh-tw/about-eva-air/news/travel-news/?page=1&filter=Travel+Advisory
- Hello Kitty Services suspended during the strike
- In-Flight services are streamlined + no duty-free sales due to reduced staffing onboard
- Coolfish on how to handle other carriers' award tickets (ticket number does not start with 695)
- Krispykrme's answers on award and codeshare tickets issued by BR and other carriers
- Yoonny's experience with United MileagePlus award redemption
- Partial refund calculation and EU261 discussions
- WChou's wife's experience at BR office near SFO
- Kremmen's experience at BKK on a mixed TG->BR ticket
- 2019/07/06 - Agreement was reached, full schedule is expected by the end of July
- 2019/07/02 - negotiation session did not resolve the strike. Strike continues
- 2019/06/29 Evening - more disagreements during negotiations to hammer out new agreement. Strike continue
- 2019/06/29 3:39PM - Union announced the FAs voted to end the strike, pending new agreement being drafted and signed
- 2019/06/29 12:00PM, flight attendant vote to determine whether to continue the strike concluded
- 2019/06/20 2:09PM, strike announced starting 16:00 TPE Time (GMT +8) on 6/20
- 2019/06/20 1PM TPE Time: Negotiation Session started and was broadcast live. Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjzS5W_LaIM and the dramatic moment is at 1:08 into the video
Flight Attendants Strike Vote
Jun 27, 2019, 12:39 am
#391
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Just some advice if the phone lines are busy - I could not get through to EVA on the phone so went into the EVA Chicago ticketing office in Rosemont (it is right by the Hyatt O'Hare and Hilton Rosemont) and the staff there took care of me in just a few minutes, rebooking me onto CX. So it may pay off to make the trip to a local ticketing office if it is convenient.
Jun 27, 2019, 12:40 am
#392
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No, that is not how protection rackets operate. Please substantiate your claim of bullying. Where are the corroborated reports of bullying? I have the impression that you are voicing your personal opinion as fact. What's your point with the reference to an "economic" strike? With the exception of work safety collective actions, strikes almost always have have a financial cause, and are in effect "economic".
How is this "bullying" being carried out? 80% of the EVA TFAU membership had to vote in favour of the strike. That's a rather high threshold to achieve, so there was obviously a significant sentiment in favour of the collective action. Approximately 75% of EVA's working FAs are unionized. My understanding is that non unionized workers are more likely to have senior or onboard "managerial "roles . I think it would be a tad difficult to "bully" the senior purser or SD. It's a bit of a stretch to claim that the young women who are the core FAs are given to physical assaults, unless we are expected to believe that they have become Hello Kitty styled Ninjas.
Less hysterical hyperbole and just the facts please.
How is this "bullying" being carried out? 80% of the EVA TFAU membership had to vote in favour of the strike. That's a rather high threshold to achieve, so there was obviously a significant sentiment in favour of the collective action. Approximately 75% of EVA's working FAs are unionized. My understanding is that non unionized workers are more likely to have senior or onboard "managerial "roles . I think it would be a tad difficult to "bully" the senior purser or SD. It's a bit of a stretch to claim that the young women who are the core FAs are given to physical assaults, unless we are expected to believe that they have become Hello Kitty styled Ninjas.
Less hysterical hyperbole and just the facts please.
Jun 27, 2019, 2:02 am
#393
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However, based on what the union said, EVA believes the overnight schedule in Beijing and Tokyo & monthly review is a trap set by the union to make EVA further violate labor law set by Taoyuan city. Tokyo was specifically picked up as the monthly rotation was set to began in July. It appears that EVA doesn't agree to overnight in Tokyo.
Jun 27, 2019, 3:24 am
#394
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EVA's spokesman said they will wait for the official report from labor ministry before making any decisions.
However, based on what the union said, EVA believes the overnight schedule in Beijing and Tokyo & monthly review is a trap set by the union to make EVA further violate labor law set by Taoyuan city. Tokyo was specifically picked up as the monthly rotation was set to began in July. It appears that EVA doesn't agree to overnight in Tokyo.
However, based on what the union said, EVA believes the overnight schedule in Beijing and Tokyo & monthly review is a trap set by the union to make EVA further violate labor law set by Taoyuan city. Tokyo was specifically picked up as the monthly rotation was set to began in July. It appears that EVA doesn't agree to overnight in Tokyo.
Jun 27, 2019, 4:14 am
#395
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EVA has the 2 hour reporting policy so sometimes bad weather will cause the crews to exceed 12 hours duty for flights such as Tokyo.
EVA proposed monthly Tokyo schedule for same crews to land within the 12 hours by cutting down necessary briefing and report time (as you are working with the same crew members most of the time on the same flight monthly round). Union called EVA escaping the 12 hour policy.
Jun 27, 2019, 4:19 am
#396
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Seems like they are adding back another LAX flight (midnight departure) and another HKG flight from 7/1.
I actually think the 'tokyo-only' monthly schedule is a great move for the company. It can reduce the chance of overtime and I think it DOES decrease the fatigue for the crew (as they report 30 mins later, they get 30 more mins sleep). I saw reports that EVA still pay for the 30mins cut down, which is nice of them.
I actually think the 'tokyo-only' monthly schedule is a great move for the company. It can reduce the chance of overtime and I think it DOES decrease the fatigue for the crew (as they report 30 mins later, they get 30 more mins sleep). I saw reports that EVA still pay for the 30mins cut down, which is nice of them.
Jun 27, 2019, 7:39 am
#399
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You can buy it as well, but Economy all full. I suppose they got extra crew to man this flight but cannot revert the cancellation.
Last edited by coolfish1103; Jun 27, 2019 at 7:56 am
Jun 27, 2019, 8:19 am
#400
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Base on fare availability:
AMS
BR 75/76 - Zero-ed till 7/9
BNE
BR 315/316 - Zero-ed till 8/1
LAX
BR 6/5 - Zero-ed till 7/31
BR 16/15 - Zero-ed till 7/5
BR 1016/1015 - Available from 7/1-7/5
ORD
BR 56/55 - Zero-ed till 7/6
SFO
BR 8/7 - Zero-ed till 7/31
BR 28/27 - Zero-ed till 7/8
SEA
BR 4/3 - Zero-ed till 7/31
VIE
BR 61/62 - Zero-ed till 7/7
BR 65/66 - Zero-ed till 7/31
YYZ
BR - Zero-ed till 7/11
Basically, importance goes by:
1st LAX/SFO > 1st SEA, IAH/JFK > LHR/CDG/YVR > 2nd LAX > ORD > 1-stop VIE > 2nd SFO > AMS > YYZ > Other long haul including BNE
AMS
BR 75/76 - Zero-ed till 7/9
BNE
BR 315/316 - Zero-ed till 8/1
LAX
BR 6/5 - Zero-ed till 7/31
BR 16/15 - Zero-ed till 7/5
BR 1016/1015 - Available from 7/1-7/5
ORD
BR 56/55 - Zero-ed till 7/6
SFO
BR 8/7 - Zero-ed till 7/31
BR 28/27 - Zero-ed till 7/8
SEA
BR 4/3 - Zero-ed till 7/31
VIE
BR 61/62 - Zero-ed till 7/7
BR 65/66 - Zero-ed till 7/31
YYZ
BR - Zero-ed till 7/11
Basically, importance goes by:
1st LAX/SFO > 1st SEA, IAH/JFK > LHR/CDG/YVR > 2nd LAX > ORD > 1-stop VIE > 2nd SFO > AMS > YYZ > Other long haul including BNE
Jun 27, 2019, 10:06 am
#402
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Jun 27, 2019, 10:23 am
#403
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Seoul
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For a lot of international flights with foreign carriers flightaware isn't accurate at all... Last couple of times flying EVA originating overseas it didn't capture delays until well after the fact. OZ is practically never accurate either.
Jun 27, 2019, 12:37 pm
#404
Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: SE England
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I have a Premium Economy ticket (BKK-LHR-BKK) booked for the end of August-start of September. Although this is still nearly 2 months away will the strike have repercussions then? Could I get a full refund now so I can book on TG Economy (
) before they sell out/prices become too high?
Thanks
) before they sell out/prices become too high?Thanks
Jun 27, 2019, 2:13 pm
#405
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SNA (home), LAX, BOM/PNQ, LHR
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NEWS!!! I called EVA agent at LA to cancel the Cathay flight they put me on because it was really badly timed for me (plus i hated the middle seat). And the agent told me my canceled BR16 flight is reinstated as of July 1st. She put me back on it no problems. I asked her what happened? She said more FA's are coming back from strike so they opened this flight and now and management is encouraging phone agents to put pax back on this flight. Except for now it's being marked as BR1016 for what reason I don't know. But that's that.