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Old Nov 12, 2017, 2:06 am
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Emirates has unveiled the new first class cabin for their 777s at the Dubai Air Show on November 12th, 2017.

Notably, the new F cabin is fully enclosed from floor to ceiling, has a reduction from 8 seats to 6 total, had virtual windows for the center cabins and features video-based room service ordering.

Business and Economy cabins have also been refreshed, but not completely overhauled.

Dedicated 777 refresh page DEAD LINK
Emirates Press Release (includes PDF downloads of fact sheet with more details) DEAD LINK
Youtube Promo video of new 777F
Here's the replacement for the dead links:
https://www.emirates.com/media-centre/emirates-unveils-brand-new-cabins-for-its-boeing-777-fleet/


Aircraft with new F (only 77W):
A6-EQH - EQP
Total: 9 aircraft

Current known routes flown with new F:

GVA - EK83 / EK84
BRU - EK181 / EK182
FRA - EK43 / EK44
HND - EK312 / EK313
JFK - EK201 / EK202
STN - EK33 / EK34 EK65 / EK66 (suspended)
VIE - EK125 / EK126
SIN - EK352/353 (unscheduled)
MUC - EK53/54


Update 13th June 2022 from post #1016
Routes operating with the new F as of Aug 1, 2022 include:
EK045 FRA*
EK065 STN
EK077 NCE
EK083 GVA
EK085 ZRH
EK089 GVA
EK181 BRU
EK183 BRU
EK819 RUH
EK318 NRT

*EK45 is also frequently operated by a 2-class 77W, but when flown as a 3-class, it is the new F configuration.







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Old Jul 5, 2018, 2:31 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter
Why would OMAAT know anything? They probably just read it on here
Because OMAAT published an article saying the new F was going to be going to MUC. See the link above. The best they could do is update it or write a new one.
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Old Jul 5, 2018, 8:12 pm
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Because OMAAT published an article saying the new F was going to be going to MUC. See the link above. The best they could do is update it or write a new one.
You realize a lot of the content published on that blog and others is sourced from FT right? (sometimes without attribution.) They'll read it here often, and confirm it with PR reps or an article, and cite that. But either way, if you're not tied in directly to the airline itself, FT remains a far better source for info IMO.
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Old Jul 5, 2018, 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by QRC3288
You realize a lot of the content published on that blog and others is sourced from FT right? (sometimes without attribution.) They'll read it here often, and confirm it with PR reps or an article, and cite that. But either way, if you're not tied in directly to the airline itself, FT remains a far better source for info IMO.
You do realize that one of the reasons OMAAT is so successful, or for any blog that is successful for that matter is that the information they share is correct, right?
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Old Jul 5, 2018, 9:20 pm
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Originally Posted by NWplatinum


You do realize that one of the reasons OMAAT is so successful, or for any blog that is successful for that matter is that the information they share is correct, right?
We're going off topic a bit here, but a lot of stuff OMAAT posts is poorly interpreted and misrepresented, though somewhat correct, a lot of it is entirely correct, almost none of it is exclusive or first posted there. It's a great aggregator, and a website I read daily, but they don't have some sort of inside scoop for most of their stories (they do occasionally it appears), and virtually every "article" is a rip-off from another site, usually TPG (*vomit*) or VFTW. Add to this the constant repetition with the 4-paragraph intros recapping the article on the same topic written the day before and it makes for painful reading sometimes, I honestly don't know why I keep going back to read it, it annoys me but equally as I said, it's a great aggregator (like the FT homepage but that's got such a terrible interface I stopped using it)
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Old Jul 5, 2018, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter
We're going off topic a bit here, but a lot of stuff OMAAT posts is poorly interpreted and misrepresented, though somewhat correct, a lot of it is entirely correct, almost none of it is exclusive or first posted there. It's a great aggregator, and a website I read daily, but they don't have some sort of inside scoop for most of their stories (they do occasionally it appears), and virtually every "article" is a rip-off from another site, usually TPG (*vomit*) or VFTW. Add to this the constant repetition with the 4-paragraph intros recapping the article on the same topic written the day before and it makes for painful reading sometimes, I honestly don't know why I keep going back to read it, it annoys me but equally as I said, it's a great aggregator (like the FT homepage but that's got such a terrible interface I stopped using it)
I hundred percent agree, and I don’t want to get that off topic. But my point is they are not in the business of disseminating false information. And when they do they almost always correct it. In fact this is the first instance I have ever seen in reading the blog in five years of getting wrong information, and them not correcting it or putting out another post saying how things have changed.
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Old Jul 5, 2018, 11:34 pm
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Originally Posted by NWplatinum


I hundred percent agree, and I don’t want to get that off topic. But my point is they are not in the business of disseminating false information. And when they do they almost always correct it. In fact this is the first instance I have ever seen in reading the blog in five years of getting wrong information, and them not correcting it or putting out another post saying how things have changed.
Perhaps we have a different job or worldview. But I can say without question they frequently post partially wrong information about aircraft industry/finance -related topics - something I am quite familiar with given my job - and I notice just stupid inaccurate information multiple times a month. Granted theyre not the only one doing this. I'm talking about things where I'll step out of a meeting with an airframer where X is being said, and Y is being posited as fact on OMAAT. I don't know much about scheduling so I'm sure you're correct in your observations there!

As a small correction, they're in the business of getting page views and eyeballs, and that traffic they attempt to monetize in various ways. While I agree in general that successful monetization shouldn't (hopefully doesn't) mean posting inaccurate info leads to making money, having a successful blog is by no means proof that posting inaccurate info is a BAD business model, either. Gossip columns everywhere and TMZ have very successful franchises doing this.

And just for the record I enjoy the blog! But my heart is still with FT.
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Old Jul 5, 2018, 11:59 pm
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And just for the record I enjoy the blog! But my heart is still with FT.
Well put
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Old Jul 6, 2018, 4:04 am
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But my point is they are not in the business of disseminating false information. And when they do they almost always correct it.
Di they correct the story about wrongly interpreting the numbers of planes stored over the recent few months? I'm not a frequent reader.

https://onemileatatime.boardingarea....xt-few-months/
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Old Jul 6, 2018, 5:28 am
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Back to the topic of this thread, I booked MUC-DXB for December in paid F, so I could try out the new F. I just checked the seat map again and noticed it’s swtiched back to the old 8 seat F.
Any chance that MUC will switch back to the new 77W for the winter? Do I have any legit complaint to get switched to FRA-DXB instead?
I know booking so far in advance there’s always the risk of aircraft change, but I thought it would stick as they announced MUC as getting the new F.
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Old Jul 6, 2018, 7:26 am
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Back to the topic of this thread, I booked MUC-DXB for December in paid F, so I could try out the new F. I just checked the seat map again and noticed it’s swtiched back to the old 8 seat F.
Any chance that MUC will switch back to the new 77W for the winter? Do I have any legit complaint to get switched to FRA-DXB instead?
I know booking so far in advance there’s always the risk of aircraft change, but I thought it would stick as they announced MUC as getting the new F.
You may get the change fee waived, doubt they'd waive fare difference if there is one. Luckily MUC and FRA are relatively close, nothing a train ride can't fix
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Old Jul 6, 2018, 7:44 am
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Originally Posted by skywardhunter
You may get the change fee waived, doubt they'd waive fare difference if there is one. Luckily MUC and FRA are relatively close, nothing a train ride can't fix
Yea let’s hope. What do you think the chances of them changing it back to MUC? Would they let me change back again to MUC-DXB if that happens?
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Old Jul 6, 2018, 8:04 am
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Yea let’s hope. What do you think the chances of them changing it back to MUC? Would they let me change back again to MUC-DXB if that happens?
I just called Emirates Germany and asked if they could change my flight from München to Frankfurt so I get the new First Class. I told them I booked the München Flight just because of the new First Class. Emirates said, I could change the flight to Frankfurt, but it would cost 400 Euro.
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Old Jul 6, 2018, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by Kölner
I just called Emirates Germany and asked if they could change my flight from München to Frankfurt so I get the new First Class. I told them I booked the München Flight just because of the new First Class. Emirates said, I could change the flight to Frankfurt, but it would cost 400 Euro.
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Yes but is that the fare difference or the change fee?
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Old Jul 6, 2018, 8:41 am
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Yes but is that the fare difference or the change fee?
I didn't ask. The moment the Emirates Sir said 400 Euro, I ended the call politely.
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Old Jul 6, 2018, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Kölner
I just called Emirates Germany and asked if they could change my flight from München to Frankfurt so I get the new First Class. I told them I booked the München Flight just because of the new First Class. Emirates said, I could change the flight to Frankfurt, but it would cost 400 Euro.
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That’s not fair. I am also in the same boat as you, and it’s pretty disgraceful that they’re trying to gouge their most high paying customers. I need to be in Munich so I can’t go up to Frankfurt anyway. But I still feel duped.
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