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nmc980 Jun 16, 2019 11:30 pm


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 31209807)
Y, J and F are their own fare buckets, but also used as umbrella terms for Economy, Business and First. When I said "In Y EK will Show availability as high as 9" I meant in all Economy fare buckets, which are Y down to X. On PC now so can copy the loads of 415:

F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O0 H0 P0 Y5 E5 R5 W5M5 B5 U0 K0 Q0 L0 T0 V0 X0

As you can see another seat has been sold since the earlier check and now down to 5.

From left to right it pretty much follows the F, J and Y pattern:

F & A = First Class (F)
J, C, I, O, H & P = Business Class (J)
Y to X = Economy Class (Y)

Generally speaking the further left within a cabin the fare bucket is the higher the fare, e.g. Y, E & F are Flex Plus fares while X is a Special fare.

The flight can be oversold because Emirates will sell the total number of seats on a flight. Meaning if the combined unsold seats in J and F are 20 they will oversell Y by around 20. It's not always exact, sometimes they over-oversell and this results in IDBs (Involuntary Denied Boarding). On EK this can be quite lucrative as they will rebook you on a later flight in addition to giving you a free return ticket which you can use within the next 12 months, so if you have some flexibility and travel more than once a year this can be very useful.

Thanks for positing this skywardhunter! Funnily enough I was chatting with m3red on the weekend with some similar questions.

I've recently subscribed to EF and learning the ins & outs. I've noted that there is no Z or D inventory listed in the results (not even 0'd out) unless there is space available. In yours (and other members) experiences, do you either search for the inventory before booking - and if not available, set an alert for when seats are released?

skywardhunter Jun 17, 2019 1:39 am


Originally Posted by nmc980 (Post 31210028)
Thanks for positing this skywardhunter! Funnily enough I was chatting with m3red on the weekend with some similar questions.

I've recently subscribed to EF and learning the ins & outs. I've noted that there is no Z or D inventory listed in the results (not even 0'd out) unless there is space available. In yours (and other members) experiences, do you either search for the inventory before booking - and if not available, set an alert for when seats are released?

In my experience it doesn't show even it available.

Generally I don't base my flight choices based on D being available, unless it's a flight I absolutely want to upgrade (not most, earning miles in the back means it takes a while to earn enough for am upgrade)

m3red Jun 17, 2019 2:31 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 31210250)
In my experience it doesn't show even it available.

Generally I don't base my flight choices based on D being available, unless it's a flight I absolutely want to upgrade (not most, earning miles in the back means it takes a while to earn enough for am upgrade)

there was a time when D showed but I’ve not seen Z or D listed - would be Great if they did and you could see how many - now it’s yes or no depending on how many z or d seats you search for

ft101 Jun 17, 2019 2:43 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 31209810)
Here's 163

F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 H7 P2 Y9 E9 R9 W9M9 B9 U9 K9 Q9 L9 T9 V9 X9

Seems odd that Business Specials would be available but no Business Savers.

sleepy_jean - With only 2 days to go these numbers may jump around a lot. For example, I'm seeing no economy class available now, just 6 hours after skywardhunter's post, and although I use a different system to check they usually give the same figures. That seems more promising for you, but you just never know until you have a J boarding pass in your hand.

I was in a similar position ex SYD a few months ago and ended up taking a discounted miles offer to ensure Business Class to DXB.

sleepy_jean Jun 17, 2019 3:55 am

Thanks for he explanation skywardhunter! It all makes much more sense now.

Ft101, i’m flying to Dublin again in December with the whole family so saving our miles for that trip to upgrade 3 of us. Hence no miles or $$ to upgrade this time round :(

skywardhunter Jun 17, 2019 4:51 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 31210362)
Seems odd that Business Specials would be available but no Business Savers.

Yes, hadn't noticed that. They may have overridden existing low inventory flights when releasing, or they are releasing more J Special because they know it's less attractive than J Saver

m3red Jun 17, 2019 11:17 am


Originally Posted by skywardhunter (Post 31210560)
Yes, hadn't noticed that. They may have overridden existing low inventory flights when releasing, or they are releasing more J Special because they know it's less attractive than J Saver

where does it say that? O is 7 H is 7

skywardhunter Jun 17, 2019 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by m3red (Post 31211709)


where does it say that? O is 7 H is 7

Yeah... confused myself. the earlier load (SYD-DXB) was O0 whcih is what I had in mind and only saw H7 and got the two flights mixed up

raigian Jun 19, 2019 5:57 am

Load Checl VS29 (to BGI) 12 July 2019
 
Hi , been a while since i have posted. I am looking for a load check for Vs 29 on 12 july 19 to BGI from LGW. We x5 perons booked in premium and I was looking to bid for an upgrade via Virgins website which is not avaiilable. presume beacuse Business is near enough full. Thanks
Gian

skywardhunter Jun 19, 2019 6:23 am


Originally Posted by raigian (Post 31217952)
Hi , been a while since i have posted. I am looking for a load check for Vs 29 on 12 july 19 to BGI from LGW. We x5 perons booked in premium and I was looking to bid for an upgrade via Virgins website which is not avaiilable. presume beacuse Business is near enough full. Thanks
Gian

Hey Gian, you've posted in the wrong place unfortunately as this is the EK forum forum and this thread is for EK Load requests

extramileage Jun 20, 2019 5:11 am


Originally Posted by raigian (Post 31217952)
Hi , been a while since i have posted. I am looking for a load check for Vs 29 on 12 july 19 to BGI from LGW. We x5 perons booked in premium and I was looking to bid for an upgrade via Virgins website which is not avaiilable. presume beacuse Business is near enough full. Thanks
Gian

Only because we are nice (this one time) over here in the EK forum:

VS 29 Jul 12 2019
J8 C8 D6 I2 Z1 W4 S0 H0 K0 Y9 B9 R9L1 U0 M0 E0 Q0 X0 N0 O0 V1 T9

ft101 Jun 21, 2019 2:03 am

Can someone look up GLA-BKK (EK28/384) departing 27th June on Expert Flyer please? I can see H Fares on this (and many other dates) which are not there on the EK website. I wonder if these new H fares are confusing my system so curious to see if EF is reporting correctly.

nmc980 Jun 21, 2019 3:52 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 31224890)
Can someone look up GLA-BKK (EK28/384) departing 27th June on Expert Flyer please? I can see H Fares on this (and many other dates) which are not there on the EK website. I wonder if these new H fares are confusing my system so curious to see if EF is reporting correctly.

EK28 / 27Jun - F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 H7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9M9 B9 U9 K9 Q9 L9 T0 V0 X0
EK384 / 28Jun - J7 C7 I7 O7 H7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9U9 K9 Q9 L0 T0 V0 X0

ft101 Jun 21, 2019 6:20 am


Originally Posted by nmc980 (Post 31225039)
EK28 / 27Jun - F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O7 H7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9M9 B9 U9 K9 Q9 L9 T0 V0 X0
EK384 / 28Jun - J7 C7 I7 O7 H7 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9U9 K9 Q9 L0 T0 V0 X0

That's pretty much the same as me. Try to make a booking and there's no Business Saver or Special so the O7 and H7 seem incorrect on both systems.

skywardhunter Jun 21, 2019 6:31 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 31225270)
That's pretty much the same as me. Try to make a booking and there's no Business Saver or Special so the O7 and H7 seem incorrect on both systems.

Nope, not a glitch, EK doesn't have any H fares files for GLA-BKK, so even though there's availability there is no fare against which to compute a reservation


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