Sep 14, 2017, 7:20 am
Last edit by: Flame3601
Information on Load requests
The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.
NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.
For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:
Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.
When requesting a load please provide the following information:
- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination
These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.
The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.
NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.
For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:
Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.
When requesting a load please provide the following information:
- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination
These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.
Flight Load Check request
Oct 6, 2017 | 7:38 am
#241
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Outbound is J7, so they are selling seats (but only Flex+ as they know the'll sell them), but I agree it's quite full and not much chance of miles upgrades becoming available. Maybe on board when all is done and dusted.
Y is far from oversold at this stage (we don't know for when this is) as they are still selling K and Q buckets. But that's really all that not relevant to the question.
Oct 6, 2017 | 8:00 am
#242
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You think so?
Outbound is J7, so they are selling seats (but only Flex+ as they know the'll sell them), but I agree it's quite full and not much chance of miles upgrades becoming available. Maybe on board when all is done and dusted.
Y is far from oversold at this stage (we don't know for when this is) as they are still selling K and Q buckets. But that's really all that not relevant to the question.
Outbound is J7, so they are selling seats (but only Flex+ as they know the'll sell them), but I agree it's quite full and not much chance of miles upgrades becoming available. Maybe on board when all is done and dusted.
Y is far from oversold at this stage (we don't know for when this is) as they are still selling K and Q buckets. But that's really all that not relevant to the question.
Lots of Y being open doesn't mean it's not full...when it's 0's it's overbooked and stop sale.
Oct 7, 2017 | 2:07 pm
#245
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F2 A2 J4 C4 I4 O7 P0 Y7 E7 R7 W7 M7 B7 U7 K7 H0 Q7 L7 T7 V0 X0
360:
J7 C7 I7 O7 P4 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L0 T0 V0 X0
Oct 7, 2017 | 3:10 pm
#246
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Dublin
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Thanks - out of interest, is there anything else that can be inferred from the above numbers (aside from 162 looking full)?
Oct 7, 2017 | 3:24 pm
#247
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360 is a two-class, relatively full by the looks of it, but not yet oversold, probably have a few open seats in the end, but not many (my guess), hard to say how full the J cabin on that flight is, as 7 is the maximum availability displayed for J, so it could be wide open, it might be half full.
Oct 7, 2017 | 3:26 pm
#248
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Dublin
Posts: 13
162 is quite full in all classes, likely oversold in Y and will go out full in all three classes.
360 is a two-class, relatively full by the looks of it, but not yet oversold, probably have a few open seats in the end, but not many (my guess), hard to say how full the J cabin on that flight is, as 7 is the maximum availability displayed for J, so it could be wide open, it might be half full.
360 is a two-class, relatively full by the looks of it, but not yet oversold, probably have a few open seats in the end, but not many (my guess), hard to say how full the J cabin on that flight is, as 7 is the maximum availability displayed for J, so it could be wide open, it might be half full.
Oct 9, 2017 | 10:00 am
#252
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Oct 10, 2017 | 6:34 pm
#254
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F4 A4 J7 C7 I7 O0 P0 Y9 E9 R9 W9 M9 B9 U9 K9 H0 Q9 L9 T0 V0 X0
That being said this flight looks semi-full given no T, V or X availability, though as it is last minute that may also be the reason. Looking at the seat map there are several center rows which are completely open, probably about 40-50 open seats in total, see seat map below. What I'd recommend is to change your seat assignment now to an aisle in one of those rows, trick will be to prevent someone self-switching to the opposite aisle, to be fair the kind thing to do is to just go for 2 seats, there's probably enough open seats that pretty much everyone can get 2 (or 1.5 in the sets of 3 along the windows, open middle):
Oct 12, 2017 | 7:29 am
#255
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thank you skyward hunter!
pretty empty flight, lady [MENTION=55456]che[/MENTION]ck in opened up row 50 DEFG which was totally blocked off, and she suggested to go take over 50HJK. so 2 rows for a family of 4 ....
good flight ! good crew!
pretty empty flight, lady [MENTION=55456]che[/MENTION]ck in opened up row 50 DEFG which was totally blocked off, and she suggested to go take over 50HJK. so 2 rows for a family of 4 ....
good flight ! good crew!