Sep 14, 2017, 7:20 am
Last edit by: Flame3601
Information on Load requests
The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.
NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.
For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:
Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.
When requesting a load please provide the following information:
- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination
These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.
The number of seats for sale for a flight are available via ExpertFlyer.com, a subscription-based service with a 5-day free trial. A subscription is $9.99/month and can be enabled and disabled any time. It is encouraged to subscribe rather than post repeatedly in this thread.
NB: Op-up changes or overselling of a flight cannot be determined with certainty from this information, only inferred to be more or less probable.
For a once-off load request please follow these guidelines:
Flight loads >7 days out are not very useful, as the airline could still sell many seats, unless availability of a specific fare bucket (e.g. Business Saver upgrade) is requested. If you wish to know the general flight load please don't post >7 days before departure.
When requesting a load please provide the following information:
- Date of flight (departure date)
- Flight Number
- Origin
- Destination
These four fields are mandatory in searching on ExpertFlyer (see screenshot below) and it isn't fair to except those who pay for their subscriptions to also have to go look up which cities a specific flight number is from and to (also some flight numbers are onward flights (5th freedom routes, e.g. CMB-MLE) and loads will differ significantly depending on which sector of the flight is checked.
Flight Load Check request
Aug 27, 2017 | 2:43 am
#196
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: London
Programs: QF Plat, NZ, EK, EY, SQ & UA
Posts: 360
I'm doing the trial with EF and loving it! Just a question on the flight above. It was showing F4 A4 J7 C7 and the rest as 0. Today I7 has appeared so it is like the results lucafrost gave me.
All the economy is showing 0 but how do you know how much it is oversold by? Or do you just make an educated guess that it is oversold.
Thanks!
Aug 27, 2017 | 3:23 am
#197
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,791
Hi all,
I'm doing the trial with EF and loving it! Just a question on the flight above. It was showing F4 A4 J7 C7 and the rest as 0. Today I7 has appeared so it is like the results lucafrost gave me.
All the economy is showing 0 but how do you know how much it is oversold by? Or do you just make an educated guess that it is oversold.
Thanks!
I'm doing the trial with EF and loving it! Just a question on the flight above. It was showing F4 A4 J7 C7 and the rest as 0. Today I7 has appeared so it is like the results lucafrost gave me.
All the economy is showing 0 but how do you know how much it is oversold by? Or do you just make an educated guess that it is oversold.
Thanks!
Aug 27, 2017 | 8:09 am
#198
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 10,048
My guess is that it's impossible to interpret the numbers we see on here. A page or two ago I asked about flights of mine and the numbers given bore no resemblance to what could actually be purchased. There's just too much black magic.
Aug 27, 2017 | 8:59 am
#199
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,791
Absolutely. Even the internal numbers. Had a flight last year which at T-48 was over by 20 in Y, I got all excited, it went out under by 2 or 3.
Aug 30, 2017 | 5:58 am
#201
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MAN DXB ✈️
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 6,930
Aug 30, 2017 | 6:23 am
#203
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: MAN DXB ✈️
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 6,930
Aug 30, 2017 | 4:51 pm
#204
Join Date: Nov 2011
Programs: Skywards
Posts: 599
No idea how their systems work
Sep 6, 2017 | 12:52 am
#207
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Economy, mostly :(
Programs: Skywards Gold
Posts: 7,791
So 653 is CMB-MLE-DXB, interesting, quite circular. I'd have thought it'd be MLE-CMB-DXB or DXB-CMB-MLE...
