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Originally Posted by IntrepidAfrican2 (Post 36443624)

There’s an extensive retrofit programme in progress, and a large proportion of the 77W fleet are in scope. They are installing brand new seats on retrofitted aircraft.

Surely that won't include the remaining A6-EBx's though...?

I don’t think anyone knows. The main reason EK are in this predicament is because of Boeing’s inability to deliver the 777 X. What EK have announced is that the A350 deliveries start this year, and they will retrofit a significant proportion of the 77W fleet.

You can read about that here.

https://www.emirates.com/media-centr...-191-aircraft/

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Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 36446068)

Assuming that the 2-class frames are NOT part of the retrofit program, I can count 79 three-class B77Ws to be retrofitted, with the oldest being A6-EGA. This of course is speculation, no idea what EKs actual plans are and whether or not they will actually manage to complete the program in a reasonable time.

It is very unlikely that any of the EBx 777s will get the new cabin. They will be long retired before the program is even halfway complete.

As IntrepidAfrican already mentioned, the only reason this is happening is because of the 777X delays. Even the A350 has been delayed twice now, it was initially expected this month, then delayed to November, and now delayed again to early December.

I assume the remining EBx 77W's will be retired within the next year and ECx will start to disapear as well as more A350's will joint the fleet. What I didn't quite understand is why EK is not starting to upgrade the oldest B77W's that will remain in the fleet for the time being an are part of the upgrade program, assuming that these would also be the first ones to be retired + are in most need of the upgrade both from the seats and IFE.

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Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 36446068)

In a complete case of Sod’s Law, no A6-EBx 777 had flown on EK719/720 for a while until my flight when I had A6-EBR! It wasn’t too bad, and as I said before it’s good to see Emirates updated the software on those older 777’s to make the ICE a little more usable but I do think EK let themselves down a bit when people expect amazing aircraft only for them to get something that’s very old and outdated. I was pleasantly surprised though that the aircraft had mood lighting and the stars when the cabin went dark, don’t think the 773’s (which had virtually the same cabin) had that!

It also does make me wonder why Emirates didn’t start refurbishing the oldest 777’s and A380’s that they knew they were going to stay in the fleet for a good while yet. Surely that would be far better for the passenger experience than doing the newest first and keeping the older cabins flying longer?

On the A380’s that have been refurbished with PE, have they been fitted with the latest version of ICE in economy or have they kept their original screens?

Has there been any indication as to which A380 will be next to return from DWC storage? Not entirely sure why EET has been kept there when the others left are older ED frames.

A6-EOI returned to service yesterday and went out on EK7/8 to LHR today. Given it's just returned from 2 months out of service and gone out on a premium economy route, has this aircraft been refurbished and fitted with PE?

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Originally Posted by A6EDH (Post 36459658)

Murtaza has painstakingly and diligently maintained an exhaustive fleet tracker on the link below. If the answer to your question isn’t there, then unlikely anybody knows for sure 🙂.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...1zVqxD/pubhtml

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Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 36460227)

He might be on to something.

ExpertFlyer and EK website both show PE availability for EK 8 today which is supposed to be operated by EOI. I didn't expect EK to start retrofit on older frames without completing the EUx series first.

For most of the other retrofits, EK has typically arranged C-Checks to be carried out simultaneously with the retrofits, hence the long periods of inactivity (~50 days per aircraft).

EOI has been out of service since 22nd May and it performed a test flight on 16th August, making it inactive for almost 90 days.

Seatmap also shows 14F/76J/56W/338Y which is the ULR config, quite odd considering EOI is not a ULR configured A380 and does not have any crew rest area, similar to EUM which has 341Y seats instead.

I'll wait for further confirmation before adding it to the list.

I'll be on EK7 tonight so I'll let you know if it has been treated if I get it!

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Originally Posted by A6EDH (Post 36460859)

I'll be on EK7 tonight so I'll let you know if it has been treated if I get it!

And it would be interesting to know if they have retrofitted the Economy IFE, A6EOI had the black one before. Today it will go to KIX, so must be an PE airframe.

A6-EDW performed a test flight this afternoon as EK2646 so must be about to re-enter service.

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Originally Posted by A6EDH (Post 36466172)

A6-EDW performed a test flight this afternoon as EK2646 so must be about to re-enter service.

Back in service today on EK923/924 to CAI. It has not been retrofitted with Premium Economy.

The very same A6-EDW apparently had a flap failure during landing in MXP on 24 august, so the return leg EK92 was cancelled.
Scheduled to return to DXB today as EK2644

A6-EOJ diverted to Munich today, was it a medical or technical reason ?

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Originally Posted by Flo388 (Post 36479039)

A6-EOJ diverted to Munich today, was it a medical or technical reason ?

Heard them on the radio, thunderstorms in MXP.

Noticed A6-ECC showing on Flightradar at DXB this morning in the engine test bay. I assume it’s now in all white and it’s departure from the fleet should be imminent.