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thijsseh Nov 25, 2024 10:09 am


Originally Posted by LJC (Post 36695921)
A350 airborne 1700 local time.

Strange routing. Just clearing Dover at the moment! Thought for a moment it was going to visit LGW when it crossed over Chichester….

IntrepidAfrican2 Nov 25, 2024 11:47 am


Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 36696051)
Strange routing. Just clearing Dover at the moment! Thought for a moment it was going to visit LGW when it crossed over Chichester….

I vaguely recall that some (or all?) new 388s used to do the same. Something to do with certifications or satisfying regulatory requirements and entering UK airspace achieves that standard. Not sure why UK airspace specifically.

EKfanatic Nov 25, 2024 2:09 pm

So I take it that the non Game Changer 777’s like the non GC A380 with Premium Economy will still retain the same Y class seats (I’ve gone on A380’s which were non Game Changer planes) but had PEY.

2 questions.

1) Will the A350 by default have GC Economy Class seats?

2) Will the older 77W getting refitted with PEY have the GC seats? (i.e. EC* and certain EG* frames)

LJC Nov 26, 2024 1:06 am

A350 scheduled service to Edinburgh brought forward, now starting from 3rd January 2025.

Flo388 Nov 26, 2024 3:46 am


Originally Posted by EKfanatic (Post 36696646)
I’ve gone on A380’s which were non Game Changer planes but had PEY.

Which one ?
maybe A6-EEW/A6-EOI?

thijsseh Nov 26, 2024 7:11 am


Originally Posted by EKfanatic (Post 36696646)
So I take it that the non Game Changer 777’s like the non GC A380 with Premium Economy will still retain the same Y class seats (I’ve gone on A380’s which were non Game Changer planes) but had PEY.

2 questions.

1) Will the A350 by default have GC Economy Class seats?

2) Will the older 77W getting refitted with PEY have the GC seats? (i.e. EC* and certain EG* frames)

I think the use of ‘GC’ in this context is very confusing.
’Game Changer’ is the description Emirates has used for the First class suite in their last 9 77W’s.
At the same time, they installed refreshed J and Y cabins. And subsequently they have installed PE on these 9 frames.
There are no A380 ‘GC’ frames. And the non GC 77W frames that are currently being retrofitted with PE are not getting GC First class suites either.
To be honest, why they ever installed this product on 9 frames (if they were not going to retrofit it) is a bit of a mystery to me, probably only as an advertising gimmick.

EKfanatic Nov 26, 2024 10:03 am


Originally Posted by Flo388 (Post 36697768)
Which one ?
maybe A6-EEW/A6-EOI?

I’ve flown A6-EVK, A6-EVH, A6-EVG, and A6-EVC (EK226/225) which have PEY but the seats still have the 3rd generation ICE with the remote control.


EKfanatic Nov 26, 2024 10:05 am


Originally Posted by thijsseh (Post 36698072)
I think the use of ‘GC’ in this context is very confusing.
’Game Changer’ is the description Emirates has used for the First class suite in their last 9 77W’s.
At the same time, they installed refreshed J and Y cabins. And subsequently they have installed PE on these 9 frames.
There are no A380 ‘GC’ frames. And the non GC 77W frames that are currently being retrofitted with PE are not getting GC First class suites either.
To be honest, why they ever installed this product on 9 frames (if they were not going to retrofit it) is a bit of a mystery to me, probably only as an advertising gimmick.

Somehow there were videos or at least the fleet that refer Gamechanger Economy as Economy Class seats with 4th generation ICE & basically a faux wood tray table in Y and larger screens but no remote control. I was curious if the 4th generation ICE and also the A350’s and refitted 77W (besides EPV-EQG) will have the same seats as EQH-EQP?

Flo388 Nov 26, 2024 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by EKfanatic (Post 36698413)
I’ve flown A6-EVK, A6-EVH, A6-EVG, and A6-EVC (EK226/225) which have PEY but the seats still have the 3rd generation ICE with the remote control.

Ah, but that ICE Generation is still up to date, there is no reason to replace it. They only need to do that from A6-EOO / A6-ENZ downwards.

livefromtuscany Nov 27, 2024 1:05 am

So no surprises in the interior:

Emirates A350

EKfanatic Nov 27, 2024 1:14 am


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 36699650)
I always thought it was a teaser for what is to come on new aircraft (F on A350 and 777X), but we haven't seen any A350s with F yet and Boeing's never ending problems will delay the 777X to the next century.



It is very unlikely that EK will retrofit newer Y seats/ICE to older frames. They'll probably just get a new different coloured upholstery and nothing more. If EK didn't fit 4th Gen ICE to the EVx frames, then there's no chance EDx/EEx/EOx/EUx are getting it. Same with the 777s, they will stick with the same equipment they were delivered with.

The reason I curiously ask this is because EK's article did mention they were doing a "nose-to-tail" retrofit, which means all seats will be replaced and new apart from Premium Economy.

Basically in other words, even if the EC* and EG* 777's get retrofitted, that means they will still retain the old Y-class seats? Is my understanding correct on that?

IntrepidAfrican2 Nov 27, 2024 1:44 am


Originally Posted by livefromtuscany (Post 36699835)
So no surprises in the interior:

Emirates A350

At least there’s a wireless charger in J now lol.

A bit confusing for me. Nothing really wrong with this seat, but there was nothing really wrong (and is still the case) with the old F, and the airline still introduced an aspirational F seat. Kind of what world class airlines are expected to do.

Maybe there’s a grand strategy that has been upended by the 777X delay.

Also, a mate is at the event today and he’s been told that none of the 65 A350s will have F. First 15 deliveries will have larger capacity, and the rest less seats to account for crew rest areas, but none with F.

djsflynn Nov 27, 2024 2:26 am

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Flo388 Nov 27, 2024 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by murtaza12 (Post 36699650)
I always thought it was a teaser for what is to come on new aircraft (F on A350 and 777X), but we haven't seen any A350s with F yet and Boeing's never ending problems will delay the 777X to the next century.



It is very unlikely that EK will retrofit newer Y seats/ICE to older frames. They'll probably just get a new different coloured upholstery and nothing more. If EK didn't fit 4th Gen ICE to the EVx frames, then there's no chance EDx/EEx/EOx/EUx are getting it. Same with the 777s, they will stick with the same equipment they were delivered with.

I talked last time to some cabin crew, they told me the ICE1 will be refurbished as well. I dont think you can use it until 2040, its almost broken by now. I had one flight with A6-ECE where they had already major problems to bring the screens to work.

fridgy Nov 29, 2024 3:50 am

from the pictures it almost looks like the new business class seats are more narrow than A380 product?
any details on that? cant find it anywhere..


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