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Old Feb 5, 2018, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
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Not really

1. check out the Boeing - Paine Airport Twitter photos. You'll see an AC and QF aircraft with tail-only paint

https://twitter.com/mattcawby?lang=en

2. I posted this video upthread back in August. You can see how the tail on this LY aircraft is painted ahead of assembly.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/28723994-post136.html
That was exactly my point, that for some reason the tail is painted separately
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Old Feb 5, 2018, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Innocent Abroad
That was exactly my point, that for some reason the tail is painted separately

"Why is the tail painted with the carrier's logo before a plane is assembled?"

https://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-tai...e-is-assembled


" Why Only Tails Painted On New Aircraft?"

Why Only Tails Painted On New Aircraft? - Airliners.net
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Old Feb 11, 2018, 6:17 pm
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Update on 787 Wi-Fi

With Viasat 2 going live this month, have there been any public comments on when the LY 787s will provide transatlantic connectivity?
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Old Feb 17, 2018, 6:35 am
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Old Feb 18, 2018, 3:52 am
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Not sure whether this has been published here or not, but just in case it hasn't, here is the delivery schedule for the next Dreamliners:

789 - February 2018

789 - March 2018

789- June 2018

789 - August 2018

789 - October 2018

789 - January 2019

789 - June 2019

788 -July 2019

788 - September 2019

788 - December 2019

788 - March 2002

788 -May 2020

788 - August 2020

788 - November 2020

In addition, the company announced the 18/1/18 that they were to lease an additional 789 to be delivered 3 of 2019.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 12:56 am
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I really don't understand why they are getting both the 788 and 789. Assuming travel demand will just grow it seems shortsighted.
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Old Feb 19, 2018, 1:47 am
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Originally Posted by NYTA
I really don't understand why they are getting both the 788 and 789. Assuming travel demand will just grow it seems shortsighted.
They are cheaper by a few 10s of millions $ and if you look at LY’s retirement schedule you’ll see that 789 are 744 replacement and 788 are 767 replacement.

LY Aircraft retirement schedule

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Old Feb 19, 2018, 12:48 pm
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Still, after discounts (~50%) the diff in cost (20M) seems very small compared to the benefit of full commonality and potential growth.
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Old Feb 20, 2018, 6:07 pm
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Some fleet information from Planespotters.net

https://www.planespotters.net/airlin...srael-Airlines




If you click the aircraft type e.g. Boeing 787, it will display more detail


Then if you click the number "2" on the line for the Boeing 787-9, this will open



Also, on the Fleet Matrix page, if you scroll down, there is a section with ....





And at the bottom of the list for the 789, you'll see this


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Old Feb 25, 2018, 2:24 am
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It's very nice that LY now has true Premium Economy on the 787 but they can't seem to price it properly. Just compared r/t TLV-NYC and LY Y+ came out to more expensive than C on the route on a variety of European carriers including AZ, SN, LO, BA, LH, and OS. Yes it's direct, but I'd rather save the $100 and fly lie-flat on BA.
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Old Feb 25, 2018, 2:35 am
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Originally Posted by joshwex90
It's very nice that LY now has true Premium Economy on the 787 but they can't seem to price it properly. Just compared r/t TLV-NYC and LY Y+ came out to more expensive than C on the route on a variety of European carriers including AZ, SN, LO, BA, LH, and OS. Yes it's direct, but I'd rather save the $100 and fly lie-flat on BA.
May 29-June 12 to Newark costs $1600 via Y+. Via BA is $2450 for C. What numbers are you seeing?
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Old Feb 25, 2018, 3:01 am
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$2300 in LY Y+; $2200 in BA CW. Newark in both cases
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Old Feb 25, 2018, 6:09 am
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Not at all surprising.
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Old Feb 25, 2018, 6:15 am
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By means of comparison, LO's brand new Y+ is more than $1K less than LY for the same routing. AZ is a bit more but considers the TLV-FCO-TLV legs to be in Biz (obviously same seat so the only real benefit there is check-in/security/lounge/miles, but still)
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Old Feb 25, 2018, 11:53 am
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And in the meantime 4X-EDC has landed in TLV and from March 3 it will operate the HKG rotation.
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