Is your cooking improving in isolation?
#211
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Personally, I would have top racked all of the wings and smoked them for 20+ minutes grill closed, before placing them directly on the grill offset the heat for 10 then over the heat for the last 2-5 to darken. I like the char! Also, drums need more time than flats, that's why I cut 'em.
And I happily say I like flats more than drums, I also have a millennial family "sister" who doesn't like ANY meat on the bone. That's my biggest pet peeve of everything.
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Gotcha.
Personally, I would have top racked all of the wings and smoked them for 20+ minutes grill closed, before placing them directly on the grill offset the heat for 10 then over the heat for the last 2-5 to darken. I like the char! Also, drums need more time than flats, that's why I cut 'em.
And I happily say I like flats more than drums, I also have a millennial family "sister" who doesn't like ANY meat on the bone. That's my biggest pet peeve of everything.
Personally, I would have top racked all of the wings and smoked them for 20+ minutes grill closed, before placing them directly on the grill offset the heat for 10 then over the heat for the last 2-5 to darken. I like the char! Also, drums need more time than flats, that's why I cut 'em.
And I happily say I like flats more than drums, I also have a millennial family "sister" who doesn't like ANY meat on the bone. That's my biggest pet peeve of everything.
I also prefer flats. One of my regular pub companions always ordered drums-only and I'd tell the server to bring me all of his flats to balance things out.
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I have to trim the brisket on Thursday to smoke on Friday or Saturday. I'm not sure if I'll go long smoke or "Hot and Fast".
I did get a 16-piece bag for $3.99 this week. It is a 5.5-6# of bird. They come in cardboard boxes from Tyson and I judged which I wanted to buy.
I did get a 16-piece bag for $3.99 this week. It is a 5.5-6# of bird. They come in cardboard boxes from Tyson and I judged which I wanted to buy.
Nice!
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For a first effort, they look pretty good. How did they taste? That's what matters. I'd suggest leaving them on high heat longer -- I prefer at the beginning -- to get more char on the outside. You don't want black, but good crispy skin.
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Flats are far superior. The wing tip does become an effective handle to rip the flat meat off if it is there. I just chop them off for to make stock.
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I think it’s only fair to discuss the failures as well as the successes. Please look away if photos of ruined baked goods will disturb you.
My first mistake was trying to cook 4 crumpets right off the bat. I’d have wasted less batter if I’d tried a single test unit. Clearly my stovetop and the recipe disagree on “medium high”. I finally settled on 4.5-5 as the right setting.
I think my second mistake was using olive oil, especially too much olive oil instead of something with a more suitable cooking/burning temp. Suggested alternative?
My third mistake was not following an excellent suggestion that I broil the tops instead of flipping. Okay, fixable.
My fourth mistake was all the times. 8-10 minutes cook time was way too long, even at the 5 setting. I’m not sure if letting the yeast rise 2 hours made much difference, what with the addition of baking soda and second rise. And 45 minutes might have been too long for that. The recipe made 10, my batter produced 12 and could have made more.
My fifth mistake (we’re almost done her) was one I commonly make. I overfilled the forms. It might be wonderful for big-a$$ blueberry muffins. Thinner is better with crumpets.
I will make a second attempt when my 1lb bag of yeast arrives next week. I’ll get this right or make myself sick trying.
pictures of all 3 batches (coming).


My first mistake was trying to cook 4 crumpets right off the bat. I’d have wasted less batter if I’d tried a single test unit. Clearly my stovetop and the recipe disagree on “medium high”. I finally settled on 4.5-5 as the right setting.
I think my second mistake was using olive oil, especially too much olive oil instead of something with a more suitable cooking/burning temp. Suggested alternative?
My third mistake was not following an excellent suggestion that I broil the tops instead of flipping. Okay, fixable.
My fourth mistake was all the times. 8-10 minutes cook time was way too long, even at the 5 setting. I’m not sure if letting the yeast rise 2 hours made much difference, what with the addition of baking soda and second rise. And 45 minutes might have been too long for that. The recipe made 10, my batter produced 12 and could have made more.
My fifth mistake (we’re almost done her) was one I commonly make. I overfilled the forms. It might be wonderful for big-a$$ blueberry muffins. Thinner is better with crumpets.
I will make a second attempt when my 1lb bag of yeast arrives next week. I’ll get this right or make myself sick trying.
pictures of all 3 batches (coming).


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I think its only fair to discuss the failures as well as the successes. Please look away if photos of ruined baked goods will disturb you.
My first mistake was trying to cook 4 crumpets right off the bat. Id have wasted less batter if Id tried a single test unit. Clearly my stovetop and the recipe disagree on medium high. I finally settled on 4.5-5 as the right setting.
I think my second mistake was using olive oil, especially too much olive oil instead of something with a more suitable cooking/burning temp. Suggested alternative?
My third mistake was not following an excellent suggestion that I broil the tops instead of flipping. Okay, fixable.
My fourth mistake was all the times. 8-10 minutes cook time was way too long, even at the 5 setting. Im not sure if letting the yeast rise 2 hours made much difference, what with the addition of baking soda and second rise. And 45 minutes might have been too long for that. The recipe made 10, my batter produced 12 and could have made more.
My fifth mistake (were almost done her) was one I commonly make. I overfilled the forms. It might be wonderful for big-a$$ blueberry muffins. Thinner is better with crumpets.
I will make a second attempt when my 1lb bag of yeast arrives next week. Ill get this right or make myself sick trying.
pictures of all 3 batches (coming).



My first mistake was trying to cook 4 crumpets right off the bat. Id have wasted less batter if Id tried a single test unit. Clearly my stovetop and the recipe disagree on medium high. I finally settled on 4.5-5 as the right setting.
I think my second mistake was using olive oil, especially too much olive oil instead of something with a more suitable cooking/burning temp. Suggested alternative?
My third mistake was not following an excellent suggestion that I broil the tops instead of flipping. Okay, fixable.
My fourth mistake was all the times. 8-10 minutes cook time was way too long, even at the 5 setting. Im not sure if letting the yeast rise 2 hours made much difference, what with the addition of baking soda and second rise. And 45 minutes might have been too long for that. The recipe made 10, my batter produced 12 and could have made more.
My fifth mistake (were almost done her) was one I commonly make. I overfilled the forms. It might be wonderful for big-a$$ blueberry muffins. Thinner is better with crumpets.
I will make a second attempt when my 1lb bag of yeast arrives next week. Ill get this right or make myself sick trying.
pictures of all 3 batches (coming).



#218
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Nat gas is not available in the community. It would be my preference, although Ive been cooking on electric stoves most of my life. I dont think I can blame that for my failings.
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Am really happy these worked out for you. This is how Maangchi recommends you take these to the next level:
https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/cinnamon-rolls
Obviously, no need to use the syrup, cinnamon, dried fruit/nuts if you prefer toffee spread and chocolate pieces. Almost anything should work.
I still have jars of Christmas mincemeat that were being given away for pennies in the shops this January. I add extra cinnamon and raisins and slather that on before rolling up the dough.
As yeast is still difficult to get hold of and the weather is getting warmer for many of us, Id recommend shaving away just a little of the recommended yeast quantity from these milk rolls. Figure out, bit by bit, how much you actually need. It is also possible to make hybrid rolls combining some sourdough starter and less of the dried yeast to help eke out a diminishing supply. This doesnt apply to gaobest this decade.
Am really happy these worked out for you. This is how Maangchi recommends you take these to the next level:
https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/cinnamon-rolls
Obviously, no need to use the syrup, cinnamon, dried fruit/nuts if you prefer toffee spread and chocolate pieces. Almost anything should work.
I still have jars of Christmas mincemeat that were being given away for pennies in the shops this January. I add extra cinnamon and raisins and slather that on before rolling up the dough.
As yeast is still difficult to get hold of and the weather is getting warmer for many of us, Id recommend shaving away just a little of the recommended yeast quantity from these milk rolls. Figure out, bit by bit, how much you actually need. It is also possible to make hybrid rolls combining some sourdough starter and less of the dried yeast to help eke out a diminishing supply. This doesnt apply to gaobest this decade.
Im so glad to have bought that extra 2-lb pack of yeast.
I also have a 1 or 2 pound bag of instant yeast and no idea how to use it.
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Am really happy these worked out for you. This is how Maangchi recommends you take these to the next level:
https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/cinnamon-rolls
Obviously, no need to use the syrup, cinnamon, dried fruit/nuts if you prefer toffee spread and chocolate pieces. Almost anything should work.
I still have jars of Christmas mincemeat that were being given away for pennies in the shops this January. I add extra cinnamon and raisins and slather that on before rolling up the dough.
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Am really happy these worked out for you. This is how Maangchi recommends you take these to the next level:
https://www.maangchi.com/recipe/cinnamon-rolls
Obviously, no need to use the syrup, cinnamon, dried fruit/nuts if you prefer toffee spread and chocolate pieces. Almost anything should work.
I still have jars of Christmas mincemeat that were being given away for pennies in the shops this January. I add extra cinnamon and raisins and slather that on before rolling up the dough.
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Im going to make more rollppang on Saturday.
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The main tip was about shaping the rollppang so that you can spread and/or sprinkle on your additions before rolling it all up. I wouldn’t get too hung up on rice syrup or anything else. As @MSYtoJFKagain mentions, rice syrup is similar to corn syrup (sweet, AKA HFCS), so, yes, you could use maple syrup or honey instead. If that’s a problem, just supersaturate some sugar in hot water and let it cool down and use that as a substitute sugar syrup. The real point is that it doesn’t matter. Use what you like, use what you have - you can use a fruit jam/jelly/conserve/marmalade (whatever you call it), loosen it with a spoonful of hot water if it’s too thick or stiff to spread thinly. Melt in a little butter too if you want a luxurious taste. Or do it with a chocolate or caramel spread. Or peanut butter. Add some chocolate chips. The contents of your pantry is the limit. Just forget about the corn (or potato) starch!
Spread it all out then roll it all up. Doesn’t have to have a hint of cinnamon. The tip was about style here not substance.
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It's there. I have never bought a bottle in my life, although I vividly recall my mother ALWAYS having a bottle at home when I was growing up. I remember her telling me it was sweet and thinking it looked like the most disgusting thing ever. I have to admit, I've never seen a use for it, although I'm not much of a pastry chef so that may be my problem.



