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lsumegan Jan 8, 2011 4:09 pm


Originally Posted by gplates (Post 15610176)
its now sold out in Y, good luck on the opup


[KVS Availability Tool 6.0.2/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/GTC/US-LTR]
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ATL  Atlanta Hartsfield-Jackson Intl GA US [KATL]
GIG  Rio De Janeiro Intl RJ BR [SBGL]
SAT  08 Jan 2011

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------
DL        61      ATL  21:50    GIG  10:35 +1  764  0  J9 D9 S9 I9 Y0 B0 M0 H0 Q0 K0 L0 U0 T0


Thanks so much! Fingers crossed :)

GYEWorldTraveler Jan 8, 2011 6:34 pm


Originally Posted by lsumegan (Post 15614060)
Thanks so much! Fingers crossed :)

Any update? I noticed that J was half-empty and now appears to be almost completely full (only 2 seats remaining), and coach now has 1 seat open. Either a bunch of non-revs are now in J or the op-uped a bunch of people.

lsumegan Jan 8, 2011 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by GYEWorldTraveler (Post 15614858)
Any update? I noticed that J was half-empty and now appears to be almost completely full (only 2 seats remaining), and coach now has 1 seat open. Either a bunch of non-revs are now in J or the op-uped a bunch of people.

No update yet, and I can't see the seat map online. I am at the gate now, but I'm not sure when I will find out. I will be sure to update. Thanks for the information! :)

majorwibi Jan 8, 2011 7:18 pm


Originally Posted by GYEWorldTraveler (Post 15614858)
Any update? I noticed that J was half-empty and now appears to be almost completely full (only 2 seats remaining), and coach now has 1 seat open. Either a bunch of non-revs are now in J or the op-uped a bunch of people.

Unless its within 40 minutes of departures it cannot possibly be non-revs. That being said there are currently ZERO non-revs cleared on to the plane (let alone into J)

lsumegan Jan 8, 2011 7:57 pm

Just boarded...no upgrade. Oh well, it was a fun waiting game as always :)

ikonos Aug 14, 2011 12:46 am

Oversold?
 
If the expert flyer is showing F2, Y2 on a flight 12 hours before departure, does it mean its not sold out? Does it have to show 0 in all buckets to say that a flight is oversold? Or with in 24 hours of departure EF info is not accurate? I am trying to see if there is a VDB chance as a direct flight to my eventual destination seems to have good availability where as one of the segments on my ticketed route is only showing F2 Y2. When I booked the ticket this route was cheaper than the direct flight. Thanks

rwoman Aug 14, 2011 1:07 am

Yes, zeroed out usually equals oversold. I have had flights have seats for sale in F and/or Y still end up oversold, but it is usually ex-LAX.

Disruptions, cancellations, etc. can affect the seats available as well.

redlegsfan21 Aug 14, 2011 2:20 am

It could still be oversold, a lot of flights, especially mainlines, sometime Delta Connection, could be oversold by 5 and still allow 2 more. They do this a lot out of the hubs since people misconnect but there is still the slight chance it's oversold.

onic Sep 2, 2011 7:19 pm

DL200 Oversold?
 
Is Y oversold on DL200 on 9/3/2011? Looks like Y seats are still for sale, and there are a few seats open on the map in J - but everything blocked out in coach.

Any help would be appreciated!

GYEWorldTraveler Sep 2, 2011 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by onic (Post 17045493)
Is Y oversold on DL200 on 9/4/2011? Looks like Y seats are still for sale, and there are a few seats open on the map in J - but everything blocked out in coach.

Any help would be appreciated!

If you are talking about ATL-JNB on 9/4 then no it is not even close to oversold. That flight is wide open in coach....still 50+ seats available.

onic Sep 2, 2011 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by GYEWorldTraveler (Post 17045532)
If you are talking about ATL-JNB on 9/4 then no it is not even close to oversold. That flight is wide open in coach....still 50+ seats available.

Sorry, I ment Saturday 9/3/2011 - I typed the wrong date; I corrected the first post... ;)

Spiff Sep 2, 2011 7:34 pm

www.expertflyer.com offers excellent insights into oversold situations.

If the flight is not Y0, then it's probably not oversold in coach.

And there's always the possibility of the fight being JxY0, where the back is over, the front is under, and the flight is not oversold thanks to impending op-ups...

GYEWorldTraveler Sep 2, 2011 7:38 pm


Originally Posted by onic (Post 17045545)
Sorry, I ment Saturday 9/3/2011 - I typed the wrong date; I corrected the first post... ;)

On 9/3 it is not oversold either. Its just about evenly sold. Will leave with some empty revenue seats likely. It may go out full to the seat with non revenue passengers filling in the vacant seats

SamOF Sep 2, 2011 7:50 pm


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 17045559)
If the flight is not Y0, then it's probably not oversold in coach.

I've seen a number of people write this, but I can't figure out how that makes sense. Unless flights only overbook by 1, there has to be a time when they're overbooked but still selling seats. Right?

GYEWorldTraveler Sep 2, 2011 7:59 pm


Originally Posted by SamOF (Post 17045623)
I've seen a number of people write this, but I can't figure out how that makes sense. Unless flights only overbook by 1, there has to be a time when they're overbooked but still selling seats. Right?

Lots of times flights are oversold but still are selling tickets. It is all due to the airlines anticipated no-show/misconnect number. So you are correct in assuming that even if a flight is Y3 it may be oversold. However, it is unlikely that it will actually go out oversold. Many international destinations (GYE, LIM, DXB come to mind) are frequently showing coach as oversold by 20-40 and go out with lots of empty seats. Domestically DL usually doesn't oversell by quite as much but -2 to -8 seems pretty common. Again, those flights frequently leave with empty seats (especially if they are departing from a HUB city).


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