Compensation: Cancelled Flight and Flight Cancellation
#61
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: LHR / BHX / MAN / ATL
Programs: DL DM 2MM - IHG Diamond
Posts: 4,053
This is one of those instances where DL will spend more in labor (even at the modest wages that RA's earn) than it would cost to do the right thing. JR, if you and your staff do, in fact, read FT, here is a chance to:
1. Rectify a problem (created by DL) @:-)
2. Keep a customer happy @:-)
and
3. Save DL the $$ it takes to disagree (and yes, it does cost DL $$ to disagree) @:-)
1. Rectify a problem (created by DL) @:-)
2. Keep a customer happy @:-)
and
3. Save DL the $$ it takes to disagree (and yes, it does cost DL $$ to disagree) @:-)
#62
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SEA - DL DM/2MM, *A Gold, SPG Lifetime Plat, some other car and hotel stuff
Posts: 5,649
Originally Posted by jimrpa
huh? Is a translation available (not trying to be sarcastic here, I don't understand the phrase. Of course, I'm a native American English speaker, which frequently puts me at a disadvantage on this very multicultural board )
#63
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: MA
Programs: DL DM/2MM Marriott Platinum, HH Diamond,
Posts: 8,907
Originally Posted by MikeMpls
Would your odds be any better if you just showed up for the return flight & the ticket agent had to deal with you? Assuming a semi-busy airport, they would really look like **** to the other people standing in line if they refused somehow to honor the return on a round-trip ticket.
#64
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,338
An update
Count me in as one who will never fly Delta again.
First, thank you to all who posted advice and support. I never received any response from Delta to my written complaint.
Recently, I learned that Delta has posted a refund to my credit card. When I called Delta, I was told that the refund was processed because "you requested it."
"I never requested a refund," I countered. "I wanted transportation reimbursement from HVN to BDL or to be switched to USAir, which still flies out of HVN."
Delta's response? "Since what you want is not an option, we decided that you requested a refund and processed the refund."
First, thank you to all who posted advice and support. I never received any response from Delta to my written complaint.
Recently, I learned that Delta has posted a refund to my credit card. When I called Delta, I was told that the refund was processed because "you requested it."
"I never requested a refund," I countered. "I wanted transportation reimbursement from HVN to BDL or to be switched to USAir, which still flies out of HVN."
Delta's response? "Since what you want is not an option, we decided that you requested a refund and processed the refund."
#65
Join Date: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,739
How awful! I can relate because just last week I had a slightly different situation where DL hosed me and refused to rectify the situation, despite that fact that multiple res agents documented my record that DL was at fault and should do the right thing.
What I want to know is, is the credit card charge still in dispute? If so you should now dispute 100% of the ticket price, not just the return portion or even 50%. DL entered into a contract to transport you there and back, and they reneged on the deal. At this point a last-minute one-way fare might well cost more than the entire original round-trip fare. The fact that they honored the first half of the ticket is irrelevant.
What I want to know is, is the credit card charge still in dispute? If so you should now dispute 100% of the ticket price, not just the return portion or even 50%. DL entered into a contract to transport you there and back, and they reneged on the deal. At this point a last-minute one-way fare might well cost more than the entire original round-trip fare. The fact that they honored the first half of the ticket is irrelevant.
#66
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,338
Originally Posted by gilpin
What I want to know is, is the credit card charge still in dispute? If so you should now dispute 100% of the ticket price, not just the return portion or even 50%. DL entered into a contract to transport you there and back, and they reneged on the deal. At this point a last-minute one-way fare might well cost more than the entire original round-trip fare. The fact that they honored the first half of the ticket is irrelevant.
And yes, Delta did "generously" offer to sell me a one-way ticket at twice what it refunded me.
#67
Join Date: Jun 2005
Programs: Dl Skymiles
Posts: 10
Due to a schedule change Delta will not put you on another carrier. Sorry but, that's just the way it is. No other Airline does this either. If your flt is canx because of any other reason, they can. But not for schedule changes. If what the Airline offers you is not acceptable you are due a refund FOR THE UNFLOWN PORTION. jimrpa has covered this very well. As far as asking for a Customer Service Supervisor......they will tell you the same thing.
#68
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,338
Originally Posted by bubbasbrew
Due to a schedule change Delta will not put you on another carrier. Sorry but, that's just the way it is. No other Airline does this either. If your flt is canx because of any other reason, they can. But not for schedule changes. If what the Airline offers you is not acceptable you are due a refund FOR THE UNFLOWN PORTION. jimrpa has covered this very well. As far as asking for a Customer Service Supervisor......they will tell you the same thing.
#69
Originally Posted by bubbasbrew
Due to a schedule change Delta will not put you on another carrier. Sorry but, that's just the way it is. No other Airline does this either. If your flt is canx because of any other reason, they can. But not for schedule changes. If what the Airline offers you is not acceptable you are due a refund FOR THE UNFLOWN PORTION. jimrpa has covered this very well. As far as asking for a Customer Service Supervisor......they will tell you the same thing.
This just reconfirms my commitment not to fly DL. Ever.
#70
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 174
Originally Posted by bubbasbrew
Due to a schedule change Delta will not put you on another carrier. Sorry but, that's just the way it is. No other Airline does this either. If your flt is canx because of any other reason, they can. But not for schedule changes. If what the Airline offers you is not acceptable you are due a refund FOR THE UNFLOWN PORTION. jimrpa has covered this very well. As far as asking for a Customer Service Supervisor......they will tell you the same thing.
#71
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 1,338
Originally Posted by I love the bump
Bubbasbrew... since you are apparently a Delta employee, let me ask you this. Why is that you guys are making things so absolutely difficult? Sometimes things get so complicated in riduculous sense. Delta sold this passenger a ticket to a particular destination. Doesn't it make perfect sense that they are responsible to get the passenger there? Where's the confusion?
BTW, Bubbasbrew PM-ed me to email him/her saying that s/he may have some advice for me. After my PM, Bubbasbrew failed to reply.
#72
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: louisville, ky
Programs: Delta PM, British Airways Silver
Posts: 203
reimbusement oddity
I recently had three cancelled ATL-SDF flights, followed by a night at a nasty hotel off ATL's property, followed by a flight to LEX and a rental car back to SDF the next morning. I submitted all my receipts to Delta, and the only thing they argued about was the gas from LEX to SDF in the rental! I certainly did not pick a big fight over that one, but it was surely an odd line in the sand for them to take.
#73
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: DCA
Programs: Delta FO
Posts: 58
Compensation for Cancelled DL Connection Flight
I have a question for the DL pros here on FT. A coworker of mine was scheduled to fly on DL 6082 (Freedom Air) on 5/6 his routing was TRI-ATL-SJD. The TRI-ATL portion (DL 6082) was cancelled (non weather) he was offered no accomodation on another carrier even though DL was not able to get him to SJD until 24 hrs later (Monday). As a result he missed the first day of a financial conference and still had his hotel room expense. What is fair compensation under present guidelines for this situation? He has been offered only $100 DL Dollars which he refused. Personally, $100 seems low for arriving 24 hrs late, what do you all think? Thanks in advance.
#74
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Somewhere near BWI
Programs: DL DM, HH Dia, SPG Gold, MR Plat, Hertz PC
Posts: 3,654
Delta Contract of Carriage, Rule 240(C) (pages 48-49 of the document) discusses Flight Cancellations that fall within Delta's control and what steps/renumeration are available to pax.
#75
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: Fallen Plats, ex-WN CP, DYKWIW; still a Hilton Diamond & Club Cholula™ R.I.P. Super Plats
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I have a question for the DL pros here on FT. A coworker of mine was scheduled to fly on DL 6082 (Freedom Air) on 5/6 his routing was TRI-ATL-SJD. The TRI-ATL portion (DL 6082) was cancelled (non weather) he was offered no accomodation on another carrier even though DL was not able to get him to SJD until 24 hrs later (Monday). As a result he missed the first day of a financial conference and still had his hotel room expense. What is fair compensation under present guidelines for this situation? He has been offered only $100 DL Dollars which he refused. Personally, $100 seems low for arriving 24 hrs late, what do you all think? Thanks in advance.
For a similar Sunday in June (which might actually offer more options than early May) there appear to be limited re-accommodations out of TRI that would get to SJD on the same day -- only 5 other flights (4 if the cancellation occurs too late for the other 6 a.m. flight on US Air). One planeload of cancelled pax at 6 a.m. could quickly fill up the remaining flights and then some.
TRI was his home airport, so presumably he had a home and stocked kitchen to return to. Compensation is generally rather limited at that point in a trip.
Although I feel rebooking is something the airlines could do better at (and Delta is no exception), those 100 Delta dollars might have been a reasonable deal, depending on what (if anything) was actually available and how hard your friend pushed for alternative accommodations.