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#5476
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Manhattan Beach, California
Programs: BMI Diamond Club Gold forever
Posts: 6,367
TATL partner award levels out of Mexico and Caribbean do not require TATL segment be flown on partner metal (they only require at least one segment on partner metal). Requirements are found in the "Flight Application" section of award Fare Rules. The old partner levels out of US/Canada (which have been eliminated due to harmonization) used to require partner metal on TATL segment. The cheapest awards levels out of US/Canada require a roundtrip booking on most routes (particularly TATL). For SAN-CDG, there are currently roundtrip D1/business awards from 185K each-way (CSTR1850 awards) with 7 day minimum stay (below), and also 165K each-way (CSTR1650 awards) with a 14 day minimum stay. Min stay requirements are found in the Fare Rules for awards. These correlate with 7 day and 14 day min stay roundtrip D1 Z fares on route.
#5477
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 3,721
Got CGK-China Y for 17.5k + $30. I have some questions about that itin which I will ask in a separate thread, but if it works out (or even if it doesn't and cancellation turns out free), I'd consider it a great use of DL miles, considering the difficulty and expense of getting to China these days.
#5479
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Fort Worth, TX
Programs: Delta DM, United Silver, Marriott LT Platinum, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 854
#5480
#5481
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL
Programs: DL DM MM, BIS 2.4MM, EK Gold, SQ Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Gold,
Posts: 5,223
#5482
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,063
I'm guessing the oddball routing above is to goose MQM/MQD earn.
At times in the past, DL would sometimes present broken fare awards which began in US and connected in MEX to places like LHR where US-MEX and MEX-LHR were on separate awards (with the MEX-LHR award being a cheap partner award). However, they look to have tightened up the fare end-on-end combination restrictions on awards between US and Mexico/Carribean and these redemptions are no longer being shown (and you now have to book the separate awards on separate tickets to achieve the same result).
Last edited by xliioper; Apr 23, 2023 at 9:48 am
#5483
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,045
Because the mileage amounts will be radically different when you start/end in US (or Canada). There's also the not so minor issue of AM not having any MEX-SYD flights from what I can see. DL has harmonized partner award levels with their own award levels for awards to/from US/Canada (as of last Fall). Awards which neither start nor end in US/Canada still generally have separate (much cheaper) award levels on partner metal redemptions. They aren't even that picky about which flights are on partner metal to qualify for them. On the previously available partner levels ex-US, the TPAC/TATL segment had to be flown on partner metal to qualify. On the partner awards out of Mexico/Caribbean, you just need a single flight on a partner to qualify for them.
I'm guessing the oddball routing above is to goose MQM/MQD earn.
I'm guessing the oddball routing above is to goose MQM/MQD earn.
This way I earn the extra and don't need to pay for a day use hotel on LA.
#5484
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL
Programs: DL DM MM, BIS 2.4MM, EK Gold, SQ Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Gold,
Posts: 5,223
Because the mileage amounts will be radically different when you start/end in US (or Canada). There's also the not so minor issue of AM not having any MEX-SYD flights from what I can see. DL has harmonized partner award levels with their own award levels for awards to/from US/Canada (as of last Fall). Awards which neither start nor end in US/Canada still generally have separate (much cheaper) award levels on partner metal redemptions. They aren't even that picky about which flights are on partner metal to qualify for them. On the previously available partner levels ex-US, the TPAC/TATL segment had to be flown on partner metal to qualify. On the partner awards out of Mexico/Caribbean, you just need a single flight on a partner to qualify for them.
I'm guessing the oddball routing above is to goose MQM/MQD earn.
At times in the past, DL would sometimes present broken fare awards which began in US and connected in MEX to places like LHR where US-MEX and MEX-LHR were on separate awards (with the MEX-LHR award being a cheap partner award). However, they look to have tightened up the fare end-on-end combination restrictions on awards between US and Mexico/Carribean and these redemptions are no longer being shown (and you now have to book the separate awards on separate tickets to achieve the same result).
I'm guessing the oddball routing above is to goose MQM/MQD earn.
At times in the past, DL would sometimes present broken fare awards which began in US and connected in MEX to places like LHR where US-MEX and MEX-LHR were on separate awards (with the MEX-LHR award being a cheap partner award). However, they look to have tightened up the fare end-on-end combination restrictions on awards between US and Mexico/Carribean and these redemptions are no longer being shown (and you now have to book the separate awards on separate tickets to achieve the same result).
#5485
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,063
Right, but your original post said LAX-MEX-SYD which is not the same thing I now realize you really meant to type MEX-LAX-SYD. Since MEX-LAX-SYD does not start or end in US, it qualifies for partner award levels.
#5486
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Auckland, NZ/New York, NY/ATL
Programs: DL DM MM, BIS 2.4MM, EK Gold, SQ Gold, Marriott Gold, HH Gold,
Posts: 5,223
Late Saturday nights will do this to you Folks. Indeed I did mean MEX-LAX-SYD.
#5487
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: DL PM, MR Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 10,130
Did DL.com offer you this routing or did you have to manually search for it. I completely forgot about this option to get to SYD and unexpectedly need to travel there later this year -- grabbing an RDU - MEX cash flight would be easy if it meant getting 95k to SYD instead of 450k
#5488
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 23,063
Did DL.com offer you this routing or did you have to manually search for it. I completely forgot about this option to get to SYD and unexpectedly need to travel there later this year -- grabbing an RDU - MEX cash flight would be easy if it meant getting 95k to SYD instead of 450k
Last edited by xliioper; Apr 24, 2023 at 10:40 am
#5489
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Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: DL PM, MR Titanium/LTP, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 10,130
It's one of a number of possible routings offered. You can't force routings on a single fare component with multi-city search with either revenue or award searches any more. The multi-city fare search will force fare breaks on each search term when you try to do this and will not try to combine segments on a single fare component.
#5490
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 27,045
Did DL.com offer you this routing or did you have to manually search for it. I completely forgot about this option to get to SYD and unexpectedly need to travel there later this year -- grabbing an RDU - MEX cash flight would be easy if it meant getting 95k to SYD instead of 450k