Asked to lower shade
Nov 20, 2019, 3:45 pm
#61
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correct. However, aside from the side argument going on, I don't see any reason for this to be locked. Threads like this are good IMO. Some people don't understand social or cultural norms, others don't have the capacity for empathy or the experience to know when to apply it, some are just jerks and don't care. Once upon a time I probably would have said I paid the same or more than they guy next to me, so why should I give up the armrest to the sucker in the middle. Be it life experience or threads like this, I now get it. Not because I am inherently a jerk (or so I think), but because empathy comes hard to me, even when I am trying.
Nov 20, 2019, 4:20 pm
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I have been on hundreds of flight and other than to lower shades on the ground for heat reasons I have never been asked that. WELL I am currently on AA243 4:45PM ET 777 B/E aircraft and the flight attendant came over and asked me if If I could lower my shade because the man next to me in 1-2-1 configuration asked me if I could lower my shade. I said to her I can't look out the window? and she replied it's just what he asked. I am in a Eastbound facing window seat and the sun is setting to the west currently so there is zero glare. I lowered it 1/2 way to make a compromise but that's it. I like looking out the window and heck as others have mentioned I have the window seat. Oddly enough 5 minutes later he got the rubber earpiece from the AA headphones stuck in his ear and a doctor had to be called up to remove it. What an interesting turn of events. On top of that Took the wifi about an hour to get crankin but par for the course with that 
Nov 20, 2019, 4:25 pm
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Regardless of the politics of open vs closed shades, I can't believe the flight attendant would suggest a confrontation like that between two pax. That most likely doesn't end well. I would report this behavior. I can't imagine this is something DL would want an FA doing.
Nov 20, 2019, 4:43 pm
#65
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This falls under the category of courtesy really... if the rest of the plane is dark and people have adjusted to the ambient light in the cabin it's rather rude to let in a lot of light through the window, I love watching the scenery sometimes as well but understand the compromise, I will lower the shade such that the amount of light coming is minimal but I can also see something. It's not been a problem and nobody has complained so far - I feel they understand the situation, most people are reasonable but there may be some that aren't.
Nov 20, 2019, 4:48 pm
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Not to flame or anything but if a crew member asks you to do something, are you not required by law to do so? How far does that law go? I would be inclined to contest that request personally and feel much like the OP.
Nov 20, 2019, 4:57 pm
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On a very basic level I view this as similar to seat recline or changing seats (i.e. your right, with some consideration for courtesy), however it is for sure NOT your job to tell the other passenger. If that were the case, the FA should have refused to communicate the request from the other passenger to you and told them to ask you.
Nov 20, 2019, 5:16 pm
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I have not done an international flight yet but have been switching from F aisle to F window (bulkhead mostly) because all the shades down bother me. Claustrophobic and motion sickness is aggravated without seeing the outside world. Claustrophobic is why I gave up and just buy F every flight with lower people per square foot in first. So on my fljghts there will be one shade open and outside sun glaring in someone's face I will leave it open. If FA tells me to lower it I will state my case and we can work it out on the ground.
Nov 20, 2019, 5:21 pm
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I have been on hundreds of flight and other than to lower shades on the ground for heat reasons I have never been asked that. WELL I am currently on AA243 4:45PM ET 777 B/E aircraft and the flight attendant came over and asked me if If I could lower my shade because the man next to me in 1-2-1 configuration asked me if I could lower my shade. I said to her I can't look out the window? and she replied it's just what he asked. I am in a Eastbound facing window seat and the sun is setting to the west currently so there is zero glare. I lowered it 1/2 way to make a compromise but that's it. I like looking out the window and heck as others have mentioned I have the window seat. Oddly enough 5 minutes later he got the rubber earpiece from the AA headphones stuck in his ear and a doctor had to be called up to remove it. What an interesting turn of events. On top of that Took the wifi about an hour to get crankin but par for the course with that
I've chosen #2 and #3 . And my flights are happy.
Nov 20, 2019, 5:23 pm
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I have not done an international flight yet but have been switching from F aisle to F window (bulkhead mostly) because all the shades down bother me. Claustrophobic and motion sickness is aggravated without seeing the outside world. Claustrophobic is why I gave up and just buy F every flight with lower people per square foot in first. So on my fljghts there will be one shade open and outside sun glaring in someone's face I will leave it open. If FA tells me to lower it I will state my case and we can work it out on the ground.
Nov 20, 2019, 5:24 pm
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You are confusing law with a request of a business/corporate entity.
There are mitigating circumstances (like I have a 504, which requires shades open), or peanut allergy (now I'm stretching, I know).
But again, corporate things.
Which, as a for-profit company, Delta is and does.
Nov 20, 2019, 5:25 pm
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If they order you, then you must do it. If they ask you, you're free to ignore. Of course they then may decide to order you to do it.
Nov 20, 2019, 5:26 pm
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On a very basic level I view this as similar to seat recline or changing seats (i.e. your right, with some consideration for courtesy), however it is for sure NOT your job to tell the other passenger. If that were the case, the FA should have refused to communicate the request from the other passenger to you and told them to ask you.
I can't remove a seat back 8" from my face as easy.
Nov 20, 2019, 5:26 pm
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Nov 20, 2019, 5:27 pm
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No.
You are confusing law with a request of a business/corporate entity.
There are mitigating circumstances (like I have a 504, which requires shades open), or peanut allergy (now I'm stretching, I know).
But again, corporate things.
Which, as a for-profit company, Delta is and does.
You are confusing law with a request of a business/corporate entity.
There are mitigating circumstances (like I have a 504, which requires shades open), or peanut allergy (now I'm stretching, I know).
But again, corporate things.
Which, as a for-profit company, Delta is and does.