LAX-DCA,BOS-SFO become Delta One flights
#61
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GREAT move by Delta. Great service for those willing and able to pay. I had the chance to ride up front on the UA 777 new domestic version. DL1 will blow it out of the water. That 8x up front is AWFUL.
So nice to see DL concentrating on service and amenities up front.
So nice to see DL concentrating on service and amenities up front.
#62
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AA has been slow in refitting their 757s from angle flat to lie-flat (they are finally getter there with the refit). But the angle flat is an international product (albeit an inferior one today). I've never heard of a domestic configured 757 going across the Atlantic.
#63
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I've never heard of this and don't believe it is correctly.
AA has been slow in refitting their 757s from angle flat to lie-flat (they are finally getter there with the refit). But the angle flat is an international product (albeit an inferior one today). I've never heard of a domestic configured 757 going across the Atlantic.
AA has been slow in refitting their 757s from angle flat to lie-flat (they are finally getter there with the refit). But the angle flat is an international product (albeit an inferior one today). I've never heard of a domestic configured 757 going across the Atlantic.
#64
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https://thepointsguy.com/2016/08/tip...s-class-seats/
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#65
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[QUOTE=minnyfly;28081955]No need to keep up with the Joneses with LAX-BOS. Nobody is making a move. With UA scheduling all flat-bed service this summer on SFO-BOS, DL would be hoeing a hard row with the lowest frequency and neither their F or Y product standing out compared to UA/B6/VX.
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Even with a 'hub' in LAX, UA has been unable/unwilling to keep up the frequencies on BOS->LAX. SFO OTH is up to... I think six r/ts a day including an evening 777 service. LAX doesn't command the $$$ that SFO does for BOS.
Second, DL has maintained BOS as focus city with a fair amount of Euro flights and point to point. I suspect their revenue folks realized they could make SFO work if they went with D1 service from BOS. I don't think one more carrier adding premium service (UA, B6 and now DL) will canabalise the yields from the corporate traffic.
Finally, we're starting to see some great competition out of BOS for transcons.^^^ For the longest time it's been either schlep down to JFK/EWR or take a 737/A320 direct.
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Second, DL has maintained BOS as focus city with a fair amount of Euro flights and point to point. I suspect their revenue folks realized they could make SFO work if they went with D1 service from BOS. I don't think one more carrier adding premium service (UA, B6 and now DL) will canabalise the yields from the corporate traffic.
Finally, we're starting to see some great competition out of BOS for transcons.^^^ For the longest time it's been either schlep down to JFK/EWR or take a 737/A320 direct.
#66
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About a year ago JetBlue announced Mint. Delta announces the route launch in August. 3 months later Delta upgrades to lie-flat 757s. About 3/4 months after that UA updates to all lie-flat with rumors of P.S. A few weeks later DL announces an upgrade to D1.
And somewhere in all that UA stated flying lie-flat 777s. They all respond to each other. This time is was Delta's turn to react. And UA might officially upgrade to a P.S. product too in yet another resonse. We'll see.
#67
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The sequence went like this:
About a year ago JetBlue announced Mint. Delta announces the route launch in August. 3 months later Delta upgrades to lie-flat 757s. About 3/4 months after that UA updates to all lie-flat with rumors of P.S. A few weeks later DL announces an upgrade to D1.
And somewhere in all that UA stated flying lie-flat 777s. They all respond to each other. This time is was Delta's turn to react. And UA might officially upgrade to a P.S. product too in yet another resonse. We'll see.
About a year ago JetBlue announced Mint. Delta announces the route launch in August. 3 months later Delta upgrades to lie-flat 757s. About 3/4 months after that UA updates to all lie-flat with rumors of P.S. A few weeks later DL announces an upgrade to D1.
And somewhere in all that UA stated flying lie-flat 777s. They all respond to each other. This time is was Delta's turn to react. And UA might officially upgrade to a P.S. product too in yet another resonse. We'll see.
#68
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I've been on UA 2400 several times over the past three months, and the seats were lie-flat. This must be a recent configuration change as I've not flown the route in about three weeks with UA. That said, I'll take a DL 757 over UA's 8 across J any day.
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#71
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I used a companion certificate to book DCA-LAX-DCA for $920 (for both tickets) in A class. The fare is now $1800 and it looks like it is in the D class, so I guess I'll never get to use a companion certificate for this route again, even if I wanted to pay twice the price.
#72
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I'm booked on this service in late April and will try to use a RUC to move on up.
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I used a companion certificate to book DCA-LAX-DCA for $920 (for both tickets) in A class. The fare is now $1800 and it looks like it is in the D class, so I guess I'll never get to use a companion certificate for this route again, even if I wanted to pay twice the price.
#74
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I used a companion certificate to book DCA-LAX-DCA for $920 (for both tickets) in A class. The fare is now $1800 and it looks like it is in the D class, so I guess I'll never get to use a companion certificate for this route again, even if I wanted to pay twice the price.
#75
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Right, companion certs should work with either A or I fares and the D1 routes use the J/C/D/I/Z business fare class categories. While DCA-LAX currently has pretty limited I class availability, I do see a few dates with it -- June 3rd for example. Price is $1628 RT. It's letting me use the companion cert for the D1 flight on June 3rd. I also see 'I' available on LAX-DCA on June 6th, but it's not letting me pick that flight (perhaps they are restricting it beyond the fare class restriction for that date).
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