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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 3:03 pm
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I've had two changes in the last two weeks on a DAB-ATL-CMH itinerary, the second of which has put me essentially back on the same itinerary I originally booked (with a different flight into CMH). Never had that one before.
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 4:44 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyerWx
Quite a few domestic schedule changes for September. Now the overall Sept schedule (some flights with lower frequency, aircraft changes, etc) matches August pretty well
I was one of those for both legs of my Hawaii trip. Looks like from September onward they've reduced to a single flight midweek (M-TH) between SEA & HNL. My SEA-HNL leg leaves 3 hours later and they rerouted HNL-SEA to HNL-LAX-SEA. I'll change it to the redeye HNL-SEA, getting ready for another 3-4 hour wait for customer rep.
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 8:18 pm
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Delta Changed my 12 PM flight to a Red Eye - What can I do?

I have a flight from Hawaii to California this fall that was supposed to be a 12:30 PM flight that arrived at 8:38 PM and I just got an email that they changed it to 9:06 PM, arriving the next day at 5:10 AM !

Understand things happen and +/- an hour or two would be OK, but seriously, how can they have you arrive a day later than what you booked? I checked and they simply don't offer a Delta flight the entire day any time earlier but it appears Hawaiian airlines offers pretty much the same flight as my old times

I think they are a partner airline, any suggestions for my options?

I don't want an eCredit, as I booked with multiple family members and having a flight I paid for earn an eCredit for someone else is a huge pain.


Any chance they will give me a full refund? (then I can book a replacement myself)

Any chance they can book me on the Hawaiian flight?

Other ideas on how possibilities for Delta to fix this?


Thanks for any help!
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 8:25 pm
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Sounds like the flight time change is over 8 hours so fairly certain that DL would agree to issue a full refund.
However, I highly doubt DL would rebook you on HA.
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 8:40 pm
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Originally Posted by fly747first
Sounds like the flight time change is over 8 hours so fairly certain that DL would agree to issue a full refund.
However, I highly doubt DL would rebook you on HA.
Is that an official policy ?
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 8:40 pm
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When did you check for flights? It could have been while they were updating flight schedules as it's Saturday. Google Flights is showing a daily HNL-LAX flight around noon through the end-of-schedule (DL495). It has a 12:25PM departure through Nov 6th and then 1:25PM departure from Nov 7th onward. What day is your flight? There's also a daily morning 7AM HNL-LAX fight (changes to 8AM on Nov 7th).

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Old Jul 17, 2021, 8:45 pm
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Originally Posted by StangGT909
Is that an official policy ?
As for refunds, the Contract of Carriage provides for refunds for schedule changes over 2 hours. As far as booking other carriers, it's at their discretion and they generally only do it for day of departure IRROPs and not advance schedule changes. What date is your flight? As noted above, I see noonish DL flight on HNL-LAX that looks to be daily through end-of-schedule.

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Old Jul 17, 2021, 8:55 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper
When did you check for flights? It could have been while they were updating flight schedules as it's Saturday. Google Flights is showing a daily HNL-LAX flight around noon through the end-of-schedule (DL495). It has a 12:25PM departure through Nov 6th and then 1:25PM departure from Nov 7th onward. What day is your flight? There's also a morning 7AM HNL-LAX fight (changes to 8AM on Nov 7th).
My flight is from OGG (Maui) on Tuesday 9/22

If I search for Thursday, there's a 12:20 PM, but not on Tuesday or even Wednesday.

I just searched again now, it would be great if they were updating routes but if that were the case you'd think they' wait to reassign me to a flight after that was updated correctly.

What an aggravating situation. If the policy says I can cancel, I'd have to believe that's the best course of action. I'd like to speak with them first but good luck getting through tonight.
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 9:02 pm
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It looks like today’s schedule change removed JAC from April to June as the runway will be closed for reconstruction. IDA has been upgagued to include daily A319s during that period (normally only DCI there). I’m glad Delta is doing something.
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 9:14 pm
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Okay, the noon OGG-LAX departure goes to 4x weekly on Sep 12th and does not operate Mon/Tue/Wed. They might agree to fly you OGG-HNL-LAX with OGG-HNL on HA as they codeshare on some of their interisland flights (although I don't see any codeshare flights on HA OGG-HNL morning departures). Doubt they will agree to OGG-LAX non-stop on HA. They'd probably agree to switch you to the Thursday DL OGG-LAX noon flight at no charge. Other than that, you can definitely cancel and get refund.

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Old Jul 17, 2021, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper
Okay, the noon OGG-LAX departure goes to 4x weekly on Sep 12th and does not operate Mon/Tue/Wed. They might agree to fly you OGG-HNL-LAX with OGG-HNL on HA as they codeshare on some of their interisland flights (although I don't see any codeshare flights on HA OGG-HNL morning departures). Doubt they will agree to OGG-LAX non-stop on HA. They'd probably agree to switch you to the Thursday DL OGG-LAX noon flight at no charge. Other than that, you can definitely cancel and get refund.

thanks for the help with the research
Id love to extend the vacation, but our hotels are pretty expensive, + 2 nights may be more than I’d want to do.
I’m lucky there’s a flight on Hawaiian, If I can get through to them tomorrow for a refund (not credit, that seems to be my best choice.

Stinks to lose free baggage benefits but I’m just glad there’s an acceptable alternative available
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 9:44 pm
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9/22 is a Wednesday (if that's your departure date).
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 9:59 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper
9/22 is a Wednesday (if that's your departure date).
my bad, my departure is Tuesday 9/21
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by StangGT909
thanks for the help with the research
Id love to extend the vacation, but our hotels are pretty expensive, + 2 nights may be more than I’d want to do.
I’m lucky there’s a flight on Hawaiian, If I can get through to them tomorrow for a refund (not credit, that seems to be my best choice.

Stinks to lose free baggage benefits but I’m just glad there’s an acceptable alternative available
Southwest has a daytime OGG-LGB that day for $139 (11.40am-7.55pm)
Also two daytime flights OGG-LAX for $179 and $249.

Free baggage, of course, as well.

With that type of a schedule change you should be able to get a full refund (for the entire trip) to original form of payment from Delta.

Just sayin'....
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 10:06 pm
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Originally Posted by StangGT909
my bad, my departure is Tuesday 9/21
AA, UA, and HA all have daytime OGG-LAX flights that you can re-book on after getting a refund from DL. DL is the only oddball in not offering a daytime OGG-LAX flight and ironically is charging double the price of all the other carriers. AA is $119 in Main Cabin while DL is charging $273.
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