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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 11:03 am
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What a weird Saturday I had. My simple domestic labor day trip blew up (a week after I booked non refundable rental car since I thought early Sept was finalized). Then all of the PIT-ATL flights around the holidays were switched to 757's. These are always 717's during the holidays. Odd. Did anyone else see other odd changes like this?
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by pgh234
What a weird Saturday I had. My simple domestic labor day trip blew up (a week after I booked non refundable rental car since I thought early Sept was finalized). Then all of the PIT-ATL flights around the holidays were switched to 757's. These are always 717's during the holidays. Odd. Did anyone else see other odd changes like this?
Have not booked my Labor day flights yet, but no changes to the flights I was looking at. I would definitely not think that early September flights are finalized - they are barely done tweaking July flights. I had a segment cancelled two weeks ago for a flight next week. My nonstop flight the first week of August got delayed an hour in the schedule changes last Saturday. I would not book a non-refundable rental car until a week or two before you fly.
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 5:06 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper
I have an award with a schedule change and there are rules listed if you select the "Modify Flight" option that say you can change within +/- 2 days before fare difference may apply.
Thanks, I really wish DL would allow all tickets to be modified online rather than having to call in and waiiiiiiiiiiiiit
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Old Jul 11, 2021, 6:30 pm
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Is the Singapore line down for anyone else? (8:30 PM Eastern - Sunday July 11)?
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 12:18 am
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Is the Singapore line down for anyone else? (8:30 PM Eastern - Sunday July 11)?
Not sure if it's down or not but how is the best way to get a hold of the Singapore reservations desk on an Android phone? Sorry for hijacking your question but I would be able to help answer if I even knew how to contact them to begin with. TIA.
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 12:30 am
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Rescheduled 1st flight Metal Changed

Outbound JFK>AMS>SPU Return DBV>JFK The tickets are Main Cabin.
Outbound originally scheduled on DL 49 Departing at 5:20
Now scheduled on DL9357 Operated by KLM Departing at 6:30

The seat selection on the DL flight were included. Choosing seats now incurs a charge. Any recourse?
1 carry on and one checked bag were included. Any idea on what is included with KLM being the first flight? Again, any recourse if charged?
This will also play heck with the multiplier.

It was also an accident that I found out about the change. They have not notified me.
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 1:11 am
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Originally Posted by AMflier
Outbound JFK>AMS>SPU Return DBV>JFK The tickets are Main Cabin.
Outbound originally scheduled on DL 49 Departing at 5:20
Now scheduled on DL9357 Operated by KLM Departing at 6:30

The seat selection on the DL flight were included. Choosing seats now incurs a charge. Any recourse?
1 carry on and one checked bag were included. Any idea on what is included with KLM being the first flight? Again, any recourse if charged?
This will also play heck with the multiplier.

It was also an accident that I found out about the change. They have not notified me.
Checked bag is based on marketing not operating carrier of 1st flight, so no change.

As for credit call DL after and ask for original routing credit.

For seat, do you have status? If not seats towards the back are free. Farther forward and economy comfort require charge if no status.
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 7:38 am
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Checked bag is based on marketing not operating carrier of 1st flight, so no change.

As for credit call DL after and ask for original routing credit.

For seat, do you have status? If not seats towards the back are free. Farther forward and economy comfort require charge if no status.
Thank you.

I haven't had status since MQD's. None of the seats, including the back of the plane are free.
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 8:39 am
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Another website which tracks schedule changes shows a lot of Fall/Winter cuts were made last weekend. Europe, Canada and domestic. Demand must not be what Delta had hoped.

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Old Jul 13, 2021, 9:09 am
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Another website which tracks schedule changes shows a lot of Fall/Winter cuts were made last weekend. Europe, Canada, domestic. Demand must not be what Delta had hoped.
UA also loaded a bunch of October domestic cuts this past weekend. It seems DL is not the only one still seeing weakness in demand.
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 7:50 pm
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Originally Posted by AMflier
Outbound JFK>AMS>SPU Return DBV>JFK The tickets are Main Cabin.
Outbound originally scheduled on DL 49 Departing at 5:20
Now scheduled on DL9357 Operated by KLM Departing at 6:30

The seat selection on the DL flight were included. Choosing seats now incurs a charge. Any recourse?
1 carry on and one checked bag were included. Any idea on what is included with KLM being the first flight? Again, any recourse if charged?
This will also play heck with the multiplier.

It was also an accident that I found out about the change. They have not notified me.
So HUMA, Hang up, Message again (or have them return you to the queue)
Agent 1 You must (re)pay the seat selection fee.
Agent 2 You must (re)pay the seat selection fee.
Agent 3 Here's the confirm code for KLM. Try going through their website. Seat selection was free working through the KLM website.
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
Another website which tracks schedule changes shows a lot of Fall/Winter cuts were made last weekend. Europe, Canada and domestic. Demand must not be what Delta had hoped.
What website, may I ask?
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Old Jul 13, 2021, 10:02 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyHappy33
What website, may I ask?
https://www.patreon.com/Enilria

He’s the guy who used to post weekly schedule change threads on Airliners.net but set out on his own a few months ago. Still informative but no longer free.

Last edited by DLASflyer; Jul 13, 2021 at 10:12 pm
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Old Jul 14, 2021, 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by DLASflyer
https://www.patreon.com/Enilria

He’s the guy who used to post weekly schedule change threads on Airliners.net but set out on his own a few months ago. Still informative but no longer free.
Ah thanks! I've missed Enilria's updates on airliners.
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Old Jul 17, 2021, 7:43 am
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Quite a few domestic schedule changes for September. Now the overall Sept schedule (some flights with lower frequency, aircraft changes, etc) matches August pretty well
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