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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by RobertS975
I do not think Delta has 757-300s with lie flat seating up front.
Fixed! Thanks for catching that!
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by TheHorta
They used to. That was the plane they used for JFK>KEF (or maybe it was BOS>KEF, I can’t remember). I know they changed this, but don’t know if they refitted the plane(s).

It was actually my favorite DL lay-flat. The most padded/comfortable.
No, the 16 753s (bought by NW to replace their domestic DC10s) have always had a domestic FC config and no lie-flats. You are thinking of the 75S config variant of the 752s which have lie-flat seats.
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by TheHorta
They used to. That was the plane they used for JFK>KEF (or maybe it was BOS>KEF, I can’t remember). I know they changed this, but don’t know if they refitted the plane(s).

It was actually my favorite DL lay-flat. The most padded/comfortable.
Those are 757-200 not 300.
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 8:08 am
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Originally Posted by dtwlarry
Good morning, all
DTWMary and I are taking a trip to Alaska in mid-September, to try to avoid the crowds and improve the cost of the rental car! :-0)
Looking this morning, my flight from ATL-ANC on 9/18 went from a 763 lie flat to unknown (the app shows an MD-88! LOL). (FWIW, our fare classes are Z outbound, and D returning)

My question to the experts here, is this a precursor to a huge Change Saturday? Or complete flight cancellation? (My apologies if this is a noob question, but if it were just me, I'd roll with the punches, but since this is the wife's big trip for the fall, I need to be accurate as to what's going on. TIA)
Your post topic made me initially think you were referring to twice weekly (Fri/Sat) DTW-ANC flights which end on 9/11. The daily ATL-ANC flights are going to 3x weekly on 9/20, but they still show 763 equipment type currently. I suspect the stage length of this flight (3400 miles) would make it a challenge to operate with anything other than widebodies. This is a First Class route and fare regardless of the equipment type (Delta has used the same J/C/D/I/Z fare classes for both Delta One and First Class fares for a number of years now). However, there's a $75 fare surcharge on the FC fares when you get wide-body D1 equipment on this route ($69.77 base + 7.5% US Excise tax). So if they do happen to swap equipment to non-lie-flat, it'd be reasonable to ask for compensation (assuming you paid for this routing when initially purchasing trip).
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by Uncle Lars
Had an SLC-EWR redeye that would work perfectly for getting our daughter to college in New Haven next month. Canceled and now have the SLC-ATL-EWR routing now that arrives 4 hours later. No SLC-NYC redeyes that night anymore. There is an SLC-BOS redeye that would cost a bit more miles to rebook. Just wondering: any chance Delta might comp a change to the SLC-BOS routing with the existing tickets? Asking if anyone had a similar experience before investing my time in the waiting-for-an-agent Conga. Thank you!
I may be saying this because I'm a native of Massachusetts, but I would much prefer to drive to New Haven from BOS than from EWR.
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 11:15 am
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I was on a LIH-LAX-MSP-GRR itinerary for Oct 3rd. LAX-LIH was on a 757-200 with D1. But after they rebooked us today, we are on DL361 with domestic business class seating

I think Delta is changing everything around today.
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 12:38 pm
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Originally Posted by RobertS975
I do not think Delta has 757-300s with lie flat seating up front.
If so then DL is falsely marketing 757s as "Delta One" lie-flat on SEA-JFK.
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by RealHJ
If so then DL is falsely marketing 757s as "Delta One" lie-flat on SEA-JFK.
There are 757-200s with lie-flats. The -300s do not have and have never had lie-flats.
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper
Your post topic made me initially think you were referring to twice weekly (Fri/Sat) DTW-ANC flights which end on 9/11. The daily ATL-ANC flights are going to 3x weekly on 9/20, but they still show 763 equipment type currently. I suspect the stage length of this flight (3400 miles) would make it a challenge to operate with anything other than widebodies. This is a First Class route and fare regardless of the equipment type (Delta has used the same J/C/D/I/Z fare classes for both Delta One and First Class fares for a number of years now). However, there's a $75 fare surcharge on the FC fares when you get wide-body D1 equipment on this route ($69.77 base + 7.5% US Excise tax). So if they do happen to swap equipment to non-lie-flat, it'd be reasonable to ask for compensation (assuming you paid for this routing when initially purchasing trip).
Just putting this out there but I've flown on ATLANC a few times with the domestic 757 configuration (Once without IFE and I nearly died from boredom).
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by JPG3392
I may be saying this because I'm a native of Massachusetts, but I would much prefer to drive to New Haven from BOS than from EWR.
They did it for us! Once you get through to them, Delta can be topnotch.
We are avoiding the current status of rental cars and doing the Amtrak thing with lots of luggage to get to Yale; EWR with the Airtrain connection and BOS with the Silver Line transfer to South Station are the best options. I think I was lucky they did not have a JFK redeye available that night!
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Old Jul 24, 2021, 8:42 pm
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Originally Posted by Intl359Widget
Just putting this out there but I've flown on ATLANC a few times with the domestic 757 configuration (Once without IFE and I nearly died from boredom).
Yeah, it occurred to me after I posted that NW flew 752s from DTW to Europe at times, so at least some of them would likely have the legs for it. The 75G and 75S (D1) have a listed range of 4700 miles (I'm assuming they have an extra fuel tank). It still currently shows a 763 through Jan 2nd when flight ends for season.

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Old Jul 24, 2021, 9:05 pm
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Originally Posted by xliioper
No, the 16 753s (bought by NW to replace their domestic DC10s) have always had a domestic FC config and no lie-flats. You are thinking of the 75S config variant of the 752s which have lie-flat seats.
How does a 757 replace a DC10? Mismatched size if ever there was one.
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Old Jul 25, 2021, 12:25 am
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So I had a flight JFK-SEA canceled today... except the flight still existed. Rebooked the original at 3,500 more SkyMiles.

Then Delta canceled the SEA-JFK.. except the flight still exists. Can't rebook the original without paying 13,000 more SkyMiles.

It's weeks away, but I'm already dreading the phone calls.

Also, why are these phantom cancels happening?
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Old Jul 25, 2021, 4:32 am
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Not sure why this change happened but I’m having a very difficult time getting in touch with Delta. The other person I’m traveling with (on a separate reservation) didn’t experience this change.

any suggestions or just wait until I can talk to an agent? The nonstop flight I was originally on is still available.
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Old Jul 25, 2021, 5:21 am
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Originally Posted by Uncle Lars
Had an SLC-EWR redeye that would work perfectly for getting our daughter to college in New Haven next month. Canceled and now have the SLC-ATL-EWR routing now that arrives 4 hours later. No SLC-NYC redeyes that night anymore. There is an SLC-BOS redeye that would cost a bit more miles to rebook. Just wondering: any chance Delta might comp a change to the SLC-BOS routing with the existing tickets? Asking if anyone had a similar experience before investing my time in the waiting-for-an-agent Conga. Thank you!
B6 Has a redeye and an afternoon non-stop to JFK. Not a huge difference in driving mileage.

That said, If you are stuck with a connection, I would fly into BDL. That's a very easy drive to New Haven. I would also look into HPN.
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