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Old Jul 10, 2016, 5:48 pm
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Delta rolls out schedule changes pretty much every Saturday, though the scope/impact can vary. During this time, seat maps may be locked out, may show the wrong aircraft layout, etc. while changes are occurring. If you are not traveling immediately, FT conventional wisdom is to wait until Sunday (or even Monday in the case of major schedule adjustments where things take longer) for things to settle down, then take stock of your upcoming itineraries to see what changes have occurred and what changes/refunds you may be entitled to.

You are entitled to a full refund to original form of payment, even for a ticket that was purchased as a non-refundable ticket, if any of the following occur as a result of schedule change:
  • departure or arrival delay of 2hrs or more
  • increase in the number of flight segments (non-stop to connecting, 1-stop to 2-stop, etc.)
  • change resulting in a connection below the Minimum Connection Time for a given airport (do a Google search for "site:flyertalk.com minimum connecting time XXX" with the airport code to find the relevant thread if one exists)
  • any change in operating carrier, i.e. operated by Delta mainline before the schedule change and Delta Connection after the change
    • it is also a commonly-held belief that a change from Delta Connection to mainline, or from one Delta Connection carrier to a different Delta Connection carrier, also qualifies for a full refund -- if anyone has documentation of this, a link would be great...

The airline would rather keep your money than refund it, so they will frequently accept any vaguely reasonable rerouting that you propose. This includes, by policy, changing origin and/or destination within 100 miles, rebooking +/- two days, and changing outbound/return date to keep the length of the trip the same post-rebooking.

If none of the above conditions for a refund is true, you may still be entitled to a free change -- in your trip summary there will be a notice about changes/refunds, and per the "conditions apply" popup link in that text:

If a Delta schedule or routing change has delayed your departure or arrival by more than one hour, you may be eligible to select an alternate flight at no additional charge. Note that the below conditions may apply:
  • Your origin, destination and travel date must remain the same
  • Alternate flights must be available, and you can only modify once as subsequent changes may result in additional fees
  • Voluntary changes to other flights not impacted by a Delta schedule change may result in additional fees
If possible, you may wish to try modifying your flights online first -- there have been data points where the site allowed a free rebooking even though it did not technically fall into the above categories. NOTE however that self-rebooking online is known not to work if you have (1) any trip involving upgrade certificates (whether cleared or not), (2) if you have self-upgraded by picking an upgraded seat that said FREE (instead of waiting for the automated upgrade system sweep to reseat you in an upgraded seat), this seems to inhibit self-rebooking as well.

Otherwise, suggested best practice is to research your preferred alternative rebooking beforehand (whether DL flight search, Google Flights, ITA Matrix etc.) so that you can speak with an agent already knowing what you want, and ask for it; this will be much more efficient than having an agent find alternatives for you.

Other notes/FAQs:
  • Even if you voluntarily choose a preferred rebooking, you have a high likelihood of success claiming Original Routing Credit since the original reason for the change was involuntary.
  • If you booked through a travel agency, including online travel agencies (OTA) such as Expedia, Chase Ultimate Rewards, etc. you will have to contact them, not Delta, to request rerouting if the automatic rebooking is not satisfactory to you.
    • There have been reports of an agency insisting that a change of 2 hours was required (per the "pro" site) for a free change, even though the popup on the DL site says 1 hour
    • You can sometimes get Delta to take over a travel agency ticket; this is subject to a $50 fee to take over the ticket, although sometimes agents decline to collect it
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Old Jan 22, 2023, 11:03 pm
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Yikes. My trip in June from LAS to MIA and back just got the return portion changed from one stop in Detroit to one stop in Atlanta and then one in Detroit. Yikes. I'm sure it will get changed again, but this Schedule Change Saturday doesn't sound good based on a few route changes I've seen.
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Old Jan 22, 2023, 11:11 pm
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Originally Posted by vegasbased
Yikes. My trip in June from LAS to MIA and back just got the return portion changed from one stop in Detroit to one stop in Atlanta and then one in Detroit. Yikes. I'm sure it will get changed again, but this Schedule Change Saturday doesn't sound good based on a few route changes I've seen.
You now have a golden ticket to pick any available itinerary MIA-LAS on your travel date or up to 2 days before or after, completely free, regardless of fare. Schedule changes are generally very helpful.
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Old Jan 23, 2023, 6:30 am
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I’m surprised how suboptimal the automated changes are. Our flights from RAP-MSP-DTW for this summer and back got changed yesterday to 6 and 8 hour layovers when a 1.5 was fully available for the computer to select. Not a biggie and trivial to change online for free, but strange…. (They also didn’t email, only notice online)
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Old Jan 23, 2023, 10:24 am
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Originally Posted by sea_flyer_17
I’m surprised how suboptimal the automated changes are. Our flights from RAP-MSP-DTW for this summer and back got changed yesterday to 6 and 8 hour layovers when a 1.5 was fully available for the computer to select. Not a biggie and trivial to change online for free, but strange…. (They also didn’t email, only notice online)
Same here! It’s also strange as you said how they never emailed me; I just check my reservations frequently so that’s why I saw the change.

IIRC, there’s a maximum of 4 hours for connection times on some domestic flights, so that’s weird they didn’t put you on better ones. Either way, at least there’s a good option for you.

There’s only one good one for me that’s in B class, and I was booked in X, so hopefully they’ll upgrade me.
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Old Jan 23, 2023, 11:03 am
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This post from Aeroroutes says LAX-HND swapping to the A350 from the current A339 on March 25th: https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/230121-dlns23

I still see LAX-HND on the A339, was this a mistake or will the update show up next Saturday perhaps?
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Old Jan 23, 2023, 11:09 am
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Originally Posted by vegasbased
Same here! It’s also strange as you said how they never emailed me; I just check my reservations frequently so that’s why I saw the change.

IIRC, there’s a maximum of 4 hours for connection times on some domestic flights, so that’s weird they didn’t put you on better ones. Either way, at least there’s a good option for you.

There’s only one good one for me that’s in B class, and I was booked in X, so hopefully they’ll upgrade me.
Unless there's something unusual about your ticket, you can probably do it yourself using the Change Flights button.
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Old Jan 23, 2023, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by vegasbased
Same here! It’s also strange as you said how they never emailed me; I just check my reservations frequently so that’s why I saw the change.

IIRC, there’s a maximum of 4 hours for connection times on some domestic flights, so that’s weird they didn’t put you on better ones. Either way, at least there’s a good option for you.

There’s only one good one for me that’s in B class, and I was booked in X, so hopefully they’ll upgrade me.
They don't send out the emails immediately after the weekend schedule changes. I've saved many of my "There's been a Change to Your Upcoming Trip" emails and the bulk of them are dated Wednesday afternoon and one is dated Tuesday evening.
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Old Jan 23, 2023, 3:56 pm
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I'm sure this has been answered 100 times before but I can't seem to find the right search terms. I booked Delta metal through a KLM award booking. There was a major schedule change. Will Delta allow me to make changes or do I need to contact KLM (who would, presumably, be restricted to award space)?
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Old Jan 23, 2023, 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by imnion
I'm sure this has been answered 100 times before but I can't seem to find the right search terms. I booked Delta metal through a KLM award booking. There was a major schedule change. Will Delta allow me to make changes or do I need to contact KLM (who would, presumably, be restricted to award space)?
Change with whom you booked - KLM.
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Old Jan 24, 2023, 2:41 pm
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There were a lot of A359 w/ D1 Suites from Europe to DTW/ATL in late March that either got downgraded to an A333 or to a A359 LATAM; my itinerary was the latter, and was in PS so that resulted in some calls to straighten that out, and switched to an A333.
I was also in an MUA waitlist on the original A359 D1, so on one hand it's disappointing to "downgrade" to an A333, on the other hand I'm also a bit excited since this is the last Delta One seat, along with the LATAM A359s, that I haven't yet been on.
It's a reverse herringbone so it can't be all that bad right
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Old Jan 24, 2023, 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by wooootles
There were a lot of A359 w/ D1 Suites from Europe to DTW/ATL in late March that either got downgraded to an A333 or to a A359 LATAM; my itinerary was the latter, and was in PS so that resulted in some calls to straighten that out, and switched to an A333.
I was also in an MUA waitlist on the original A359 D1, so on one hand it's disappointing to "downgrade" to an A333, on the other hand I'm also a bit excited since this is the last Delta One seat, along with the LATAM A359s, that I haven't yet been on.
It's a reverse herringbone so it can't be all that bad right
A332 is same seat, so if flown it, you've flown same seat.

D1 seats were not refurbished when PS was added. Padding can be an issue.
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Old Jan 26, 2023, 8:54 am
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What are people's experiences with a small schedule change (10 min)? Any point in calling in to see if I can get something different or is that a waste of my time? Thanks.
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Old Jan 26, 2023, 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
What are people's experiences with a small schedule change (10 min)? Any point in calling in to see if I can get something different or is that a waste of my time? Thanks.

On the phone it can be a challenge with a small schedule change but online I have had success making free changes with even a one minute schedule change. Click the change flight button online in your reservation and see what happens.
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Old Jan 28, 2023, 3:20 pm
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Looks like the following TATL nonstops have been extended to year-round service with this weekend’s schedule updates:

JFK-BER
JFK-GVA
JFK-VCE
LAX-LHR
LAX-CDG

They were all originally scheduled to end at the end of October 2023 with the start of the winter season..
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Old Jan 28, 2023, 7:16 pm
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It would be nice if SLC-LHR would operate year-round.
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