Delta MD80 skidss off runway @ LGA 11:09AM EST
Mar 5, 2015, 3:07 pm
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Nor, could they go to the bathroom on the plane first (as the're locked for landing) since it took a while to deplane, which according to the flyer sitting in F interviewe, was orderely but few exception, women & children left the plane first & later boarded the buses to take them to the terminal.
Video - http://7online.com/news/video-delta-...at-lga/545957/
Here you can see 1 pax with the light color backpack and another holding a dark color (heavy) bag in his right hand, then shifting it to the left/convert to backpack mode while walking calmly on the snow-covered grounds.
Video - http://7online.com/news/video-delta-...at-lga/545957/
Here you can see 1 pax with the light color backpack and another holding a dark color (heavy) bag in his right hand, then shifting it to the left/convert to backpack mode while walking calmly on the snow-covered grounds.
Mar 5, 2015, 3:13 pm
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Glad everyone is ok. That is a ..... of a runway with a headwind and good vis. You'd have to really stick it with a tail wind of 20 knots.
Mar 5, 2015, 3:17 pm
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I am so happy everyone got off the plane safely with relatively few injuries. I am struck, however, that after what really has to be called a crash at a major NYC airport that after the initial flurry of coverage on TV from 11-2 most networks are not even starting off with the story. CNN is -- after all, thanks to Malaysian Air, it is Crash News Network -- but now, after 5pm, it's giving only a short amount of coverage. MSNBC started with Ferguson, and Fox with Hillary. Seriously? An accident as major as this one?What's going on?
Mar 5, 2015, 3:20 pm
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Agree with the other voices chiming in that this will likely result in retirement, given that DL was likely going to start moving the MD-88s out of the fleet in 2-4 years anyway.
Also, just a reminder and some perspective - for anyone who has to call today, try to be patient and understanding with the call center folks. From a short conversation with an agent an hour ago, it sounds like they're under a lot of pressure - they're working extra hours to cover the call volume, but don't have a ton of options to offer people right now with the LGA closure and the average caller is pretty cranky about it. The more pleasant and courteous everyone is, the faster everything will get back on track (and the more likely you are to get a favorable rebooking).
Also, just a reminder and some perspective - for anyone who has to call today, try to be patient and understanding with the call center folks. From a short conversation with an agent an hour ago, it sounds like they're under a lot of pressure - they're working extra hours to cover the call volume, but don't have a ton of options to offer people right now with the LGA closure and the average caller is pretty cranky about it. The more pleasant and courteous everyone is, the faster everything will get back on track (and the more likely you are to get a favorable rebooking).
Mar 5, 2015, 3:21 pm
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I am so happy everyone got off the plane safely with relatively few injuries. I am struck, however, that after what really has to be called a crash at a major NYC airport that after the initial flurry of coverage on TV from 11-2 most networks are not even starting off with the story. CNN is -- after all, thanks to Malaysian Air, it is Crash News Network -- but now, after 5pm, it's giving only a short amount of coverage. MSNBC started with Ferguson, and Fox with Hillary. Seriously? An accident as major as this one?What's going on?
Mar 5, 2015, 3:23 pm
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I am so happy everyone got off the plane safely with relatively few injuries. I am struck, however, that after what really has to be called a crash at a major NYC airport that after the initial flurry of coverage on TV from 11-2 most networks are not even starting off with the story. CNN is -- after all, thanks to Malaysian Air, it is Crash News Network -- but now, after 5pm, it's giving only a short amount of coverage. MSNBC started with Ferguson, and Fox with Hillary. Seriously? An accident as major as this one?What's going on?
Mar 5, 2015, 3:38 pm
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Are you kidding me? That whole crew deserves to be fired for not getting the passengers off of that plane. There was a fuel leak! Every instruction I have ever heard was to get off of the aircraft as quickly as possible. You don't sit around after a crash, you get yourself off of that aircraft.
Mar 5, 2015, 3:58 pm
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I understand the way your remarks were intended, houserulz77, but I find this highly unusual, and most news stations would consider this, in your words -- great news. (Sad.) But there were some early indications that may possiblypoint to more than weather as the cause, since two flights landed a few minutes earlier and had no braking problems, the plane according to some passengers seemed to be coming down very fast, the left wing partially broke up, the slide on the right rear didn't deploy, the plane was 28 yrs old, there was some fuel spillage, etc. And a bit more space and it would've ended up in water. Maybe all that was early speculation, but at least some was provided by pilots.I call this news and still question why while the early coverage (which did note that hardly anyone was injured seriously) was extensive, but as soon as it got near prime time other stories (which hardly seem comparable since most are a day or two old) took over the lead.
Mar 5, 2015, 3:58 pm
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Oh, and it's likely that the crew may not survive a crash. I suppose you'll just sit there and wait for their ghost to give you instructions?
If I'm lucky enough to survive a plane crash then I am going to get myself off that aircraft as soon as I possibly can.
Mar 5, 2015, 4:05 pm
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I understand the way your remarks were intended, houserulz77, but I find this highly unusual, and most news stations would consider this, in your words -- great news. (Sad.) But there were some early indications that may possiblypoint to more than weather as the cause, since two flights landed a few minutes earlier and had no braking problems, the plane according to some passengers seemed to be coming down very fast, the left wing partially broke up, the slide on the right rear didn't deploy, the plane was 28 yrs old, there was some fuel spillage, etc. And a bit more space and it would've ended up in water. Maybe all that was early speculation, but at least some was provided by pilots.I call this news and still question why while the early coverage (which did note that hardly anyone was injured seriously) was extensive, but as soon as it got near prime time other stories (which hardly seem comparable since most are a day or two old) took over the lead.
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Mar 5, 2015, 4:17 pm
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One was an A319, and one was an unspecified regional jet, according to ATC. http://blog.wandr.me/2015/03/transcr...runway-egress/
Mar 5, 2015, 4:21 pm
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They didnt roll the whole runway from what I am being told, they had 3k feet of runway when they slipped off.... based on what I understand. I bet there will be a story about the brakes on the Mad Dogs before this one is over...
Mar 5, 2015, 4:27 pm
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I have a couple of friends who work with the NTSB. I'll take their suggestions.
Oh, and it's likely that the crew may not survive a crash. I suppose you'll just sit there and wait for their ghost to give you instructions?
If I'm lucky enough to survive a plane crash then I am going to get myself off that aircraft as soon as I possibly can.
Oh, and it's likely that the crew may not survive a crash. I suppose you'll just sit there and wait for their ghost to give you instructions?
If I'm lucky enough to survive a plane crash then I am going to get myself off that aircraft as soon as I possibly can.
An orderly exit with clear concise commands is the only way to prevent panic.
Try taking an Able Body Passenger course sometime and you might have a different outlook.
DL calls it Road Warrior training.