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This wiki is intended to contain a list of opportunities to fly internationally configured wide-body aircraft within the United States, aside from the usual JFK-LAX/SFO 767s and newer domestic DeltaOne routes. This is a collaborative wiki, not an OP-maintained thread; please contribute by editing the wiki directly as you become aware of regularly scheduled or repositioning flights. Schedules change far more frequently than community members have time to update this wiki; therefore please verify the equipment before purchasing a flight.

Airbus A350
None at the moment

Airbus A330-900
DL308 JFK-SEA dep 7:00am arr 10:05am (as of June 5 2021)
DL327 SEA-JFK dep 11:45am arr 8:25pm (as of June 5 2021)

Airbus A330-300
DL44 ATL-JFK dep 12:15p arr 2:31p (as of Oct. 26)
DL45 JFK-ATL dep 3:20p arr 5:50p (as of Oct. 26)

Airbus A330-200
None at the moment

Boeing 767-400ER
ATL-MCO (multiple options in Dec.)
MCO-ATL (multiple options in Dec.)
DL355 ATL-SEA dep 9:40a arr 12:05p (as of Oct. 26)
DL364 SEA-ATL dep 1:36p arr 9:15p (as of Oct. 26)
DL858 ATL-SLC dep 10:01a arr 12:04p (as of Oct. 26)
DL906 SLC-ATL dep 1:55p arr 7:28p (as of Oct. 26)

Boeing 767-300ER
JFK-LAX (majority of flights)
LAX-JFK (majority of flights)
ATL-LAS (three daily flights as of Oct. 26)
LAS-ATL (three daily flights as of Oct. 26)
ATL-MCO (multiple options through Jan.)
MCO-ATL (multiple options through Jan.)
DL1999 ATL-FLL dep 9:40a arr 11:30a (as of Oct. 26)
DL1999 FLL-ATL dep 12:55p arr 2:44p (as of Oct. 26)
DL426 ATL-JFK dep 9:52p arr 12:05a (as of Oct. 26) - certain dates operated by a 764
DL424 JFK-ATL dep 6:10a arr 8:34a (as of Oct. 26) - certain dates operated by a 764
DL1997 ATL-MIA dep 4:29p arr 6:17p (as of Oct. 26)
DL1997 MIA-ATL dep 7:45p arr 9:35p (as of Oct. 26)
DL2020 ATL-TPA dep 6:05p arr 7:32p (as of Oct. 26)
DL1536 TPA-ATL dep 8:10a arr 9:39a (as of Oct. 26)

Boeing 757-200 w/ 16 flat-bed seats
These international narrowbodies would normally also fly the domestic DeltaOne routes JFK-LAX/SFO, BOS-LAX, and DCA-LAX.

During COVID-19, when many international routes are suspended, they can be found on some domestic routes (including Hawai'i):

Regular service through March 2021:
JFK-LAS
JFK-PHX
JFK-SAN
JFK-SEA
JFK-SFO
JFK-SLC
LAX-KOA
SEA-KOA
SEA-OGG

Positioning / one-offs:
SLC-SEA
SLC-LAS
SLC-BOS 4x a week
BOS-LAX
JFK-MEX
JFK-SJU
LAX-HNL

one way to search for these on ITA

Originally Posted by mudpuppy
Try this as both the origin and destination on ITA. I used the hubs and frequent destinations for widebodies, but you could put in whatever airports you're interested in.

ATL, DTW, MSP, SEA, LAX, SLC, JFK, SFO :: dl / aircraft t:777 t:747 t:330 t:76z t:76l t:76t t:764
Originally Posted by Mountain Explorer
Unfortunately, the above doesn't work for 767s. Use this instead:

ATL, DTW, MSP, SEA, LAX, SLC, JFK, SFO :: dl / aircraft t:777 t:747 t:330 t:767
This Delta Cargo schedule lists wide body routes by region.



Looks like the A350 is running between LAX and ATL, Sunday only Red-Eye to ATL, Monday evening only return to LAX. Through Sept. 6th









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Old Oct 27, 2020, 12:03 pm
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DL 460 8:10am ATL-LAS
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Both switch from 763 to 764
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Old Oct 27, 2020, 6:28 pm
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Originally Posted by mridley2
OH Yeah? Please share details. I was planning to visit some cousins in the Orlando area later this year.
these are specific to the days im flying 767-400
12/22 - DL2117 DTW-MCO
12/27 - DL 1533 ATL-MCO

also saw 767-400 from ATL on the 22nd and to DTW on 27th , but don't have the flight numbers
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Old Nov 18, 2020, 9:54 pm
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This might be a dumb question but what's a good method of tracking these widebody upgrades? Hoping to catch some domestic widebody flights out of MSP this winter or spring. This thread has some good info but I'm sure they are some that aren't mentioned here or up to date.
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Old Nov 18, 2020, 10:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Pip Carlson
This might be a dumb question but what's a good method of tracking these widebody upgrades? Hoping to catch some domestic widebody flights out of MSP this winter or spring. This thread has some good info but I'm sure they are some that aren't mentioned here or up to date.
I'd suggest looking for wide bodies added to increase capacity on especially high travel days, such as perhaps the Sunday after Thanksgiving or key southern destinations around spring break. In the past, certain huge conventions and trade shows would also be candidates, but these meetings are likely to have been cancelled or switched to remote/virtual only at this point.
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Old Nov 18, 2020, 10:55 pm
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
I'd suggest looking for wide bodies added to increase capacity on especially high travel days, such as perhaps the Sunday after Thanksgiving or key southern destinations around spring break. In the past, certain huge conventions and trade shows would also be candidates, but these meetings are likely to have been cancelled or switched to remote/virtual only at this point.
Thanks for the quick reply. Appreciate it. I guess I was wondering if there was some kind of automated way to receive alerts or more easily search. It seems some people have a good way of detecting these widebody flights. For example, I am considering a flight to Tampa in December and just saw there were direct flights on 767. Never would have expected that. Just wondering if any of these outliers exist.
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Old Nov 18, 2020, 11:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Pip Carlson
Thanks for the quick reply. Appreciate it. I guess I was wondering if there was some kind of automated way to receive alerts or more easily search. It seems some people have a good way of detecting these widebody flights. For example, I am considering a flight to Tampa in December and just saw there were direct flights on 767. Never would have expected that. Just wondering if any of these outliers exist.
If you are familiar with using ITA Matrix, there is an explanation of how to use extended codes to search for specific aircraft types in the wiki at the top of this thread, although in some sense you sort of have to already have an idea what airports might be involved in order to do any kind of directed search (sort of like needing to already know roughly how a word is spelled before looking it up in the dictionary )

Such flights generally touch a hub on one end or the other, so you could e.g. put in ATL as the origin and use the Matrix feature that lets you specify a range of airports in a geographical radius as the destination, sort of shotgun approach.
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Old Nov 19, 2020, 4:48 am
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Originally Posted by CMK10
They did. In the early to mid 2000s Delta still had 767-200s which went to JAX, MIA, MCO etc. and also their 767-400s were configured in a domestic high density configuration and went to PHX in the winter months, MCO and similar places.

I don’t recall the 764 being any sort of scheduled visitor to PHX until well into this past decade.

There was, however, a daily 763 departure at 17:40 ATL 18:45 PHX 19:30 LAS 20:42 (summer hours) and it operated as DL0689 as the first two legs, which terminated in LAS. FA staffing on the ATL-PHX leg was seven, I think one cooking two working the F aisles, and four in the rear. In PHX, fa working G-position would solo-overnight PHX and join a NEW breakfast flight CREW to work ATL on a 757 that in-bound to PHX, was a post-meal hours for it’s departure west and staffed with five FA’s but needed six to return tonATL because full-meal service flights staffed two in F on the 757 and four in Y. The flight 689 It was a fully catered dinner flight, and it was always a treat to be surprised at which layout of the 767-300 you were going to be on. Some had strictly overhead projectors for all cabins, which required fa’s to sometimes manually lift (two-person job) a large, rigid white screen first horizontally from one aisle, OVER seats CDE, then turned vertically and click-locked into the center seats PSU. This process was reversed after the presentation of the safety video, was read attached after region cruise level and was detached once again prior to landing. Those layout of the 763 domestic also failed to have any video display visible for only the single passenger seated on each side at the first OWE (seat was B and F) with the row directly behind each having seats A/B, F/G and both A/G seats had no seat in-front of it, thus direct exit access and generous legroom, for both pax in that row. Every other see I had a clear view of the overhead projector screen each cabin. The second domestic play out I remember for the 763 maintain the RGB overhead projectors and screens, but also added a small LCD video display mounted on the bulkhead at each OWE bulkhead, as well as overhead, aisle mounted small TVs every few rows. This daily visitor to PHX ceased immediately after 9/11 and didn’t see a regularly scheduled wide-body service from DL until post-2010/Song.
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Old Nov 19, 2020, 3:19 pm
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Seeing lots of 767-400 and 767-300 flights on ATL-MCO-ATL in December going on into January. Also lots of 757-300s on the route now.
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Old Nov 19, 2020, 11:59 pm
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Originally Posted by MrFlyRite
I don’t recall the 764 being any sort of scheduled visitor to PHX until well into this past decade.

There was, however, a daily 763 departure at 17:40 ATL 18:45 PHX 19:30 LAS 20:42 (summer hours) and it operated as DL0689 as the first two legs, which terminated in LAS.
There was also 763 PHX-JFK service that started in late 1999 but that was pretty short-lived. By the way, IIRC the DL 689 ATL-PHX 763 was only for a couple of years during the summer (1998-ish, if I had to guess). It was a 757 otherwise.
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Old Nov 20, 2020, 9:55 am
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I've got ATL-PHX and PHX-ATL upcoming on 12/4 and 12/6, both on 764s.
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Old Nov 20, 2020, 1:30 pm
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Originally Posted by dcadwell
I've got ATL-PHX and PHX-ATL upcoming on 12/4 and 12/6, both on 764s.
I have DEN-ATL, ATL-DEN and another ATL-DEN in December, all on 764s as well.
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Originally Posted by cmd320
Seeing lots of 767-400 and 767-300 flights on ATL-MCO-ATL in December going on into January. Also lots of 757-300s on the route now.
6x daily on ATL-MCO and 2x daily on DTW-MCO for December schedule (which runs through Jan 4th). Unfortunately, they all go away after that.
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Old Nov 20, 2020, 2:18 pm
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FLL is getting some 764/763 in January. A330 goes onto JFK-ATL-JFK some days of the week.
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Old Nov 20, 2020, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by DLATL777
A330 goes onto JFK-ATL-JFK some days of the week.
Flew this flight a couple weeks ago. Non-rev city in D1. Probably more than 75% of the cabin was uniformed employees.
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