No Delta, my bag is NOT for free advertising - SEA
#181
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In that case, have the hawkers yell "you can get 30k SkyPesos" at the bags as the handlers place them on the carousel. @:-)
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That is why ad blockers exist. I haven't seen an ad on FT in years.
Good thing too. Not sure my digestive processes could survive the juxtaposition of ads touting the glories of the SkyMile program and the realities recorded here.
Good thing too. Not sure my digestive processes could survive the juxtaposition of ads touting the glories of the SkyMile program and the realities recorded here.
#186
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OP - I would have emphasized the 40 minute delay so they could slap (stickers, flyers, whatever) on the bags. The thing that really ticked you off was the delay, and you didn't even mention it.
What physical format was the advertising, was it easy to remove?
What physical format was the advertising, was it easy to remove?
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I am sure you could have an ad free highway should you be willing to pay more in tax (whether petrol, sales, or income tax, or tolls.)
I do not mind these ads in particular because I pay more attention to the road when driving than the billboards...
I do not mind these ads in particular because I pay more attention to the road when driving than the billboards...
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I suggest you read the thread and you might find pictures as well....
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It matters... in the grand scheme of things
For those who are poo-pooing the thread, it does matter.
Does a little tag, hanging on my luggage handle matter? Will I suffer a life ending hit, or career disabling incident because of it? God, I hope not. Is it right for them to do it... I'd say no, but that is a topic of debate where the personal property folks have the upper hand.
At issue is that this, when combined with all of the other moves at Delta are one more step too far.
Last year, I flew on one reward ticket, but logged more than 155,000 MQM's with my bonus (Flew 125,000+ with a few roll over miles and the AMEX bump, all domestic miles, and many on CRJ-200's over 500 miles). Most of my tickets are booked within two to three weeks of departure, and often at a premium.
That is all not to have DYKWIA moment. Instead it is to show that I am not some E fare flying, low ticket price paying, give it all to me because you owe me complainer. I, and my company, invest a great deal of money in our relationship with Delta on an annual basis. I am not the only Delta PM/DM at our company, many of which fly the high cost international routes, including some booking the BE seats TPAC and TATL. We are all up for grabs now, especially with our head office being in Toronto.
Delta, I say this to you. You are NOT the biggest any more (US/AA), you are NOT the most innovative anymore (JB, SWA), and the quality of the product is suffering with dirty planes at the gate, yellowing interiors of the pusher planes you keep purchasing from upgrading airlines, are not good at getting bags to the gate in many cases (AS kicks butt in this department), and the grouchy nature of not all, but many of your FA's. (Let me say this before I get flamed, or though ill of by all FA's. There are AWESOME FA's on many flights, NYC's and SLC crews tend to be my favorites, but the bad ones are REALLY bad) The high quality of your frequent flier programs was the glue holding us all together. Unfortunately, it would seem that you can't see this any more.
There's always the question of whether Delta listens to it's HVC's, MVC's, or any customer at all. I hope that they don't. Because, if they do, it means they ignore the feedback.
Does a little tag, hanging on my luggage handle matter? Will I suffer a life ending hit, or career disabling incident because of it? God, I hope not. Is it right for them to do it... I'd say no, but that is a topic of debate where the personal property folks have the upper hand.
At issue is that this, when combined with all of the other moves at Delta are one more step too far.
Last year, I flew on one reward ticket, but logged more than 155,000 MQM's with my bonus (Flew 125,000+ with a few roll over miles and the AMEX bump, all domestic miles, and many on CRJ-200's over 500 miles). Most of my tickets are booked within two to three weeks of departure, and often at a premium.
That is all not to have DYKWIA moment. Instead it is to show that I am not some E fare flying, low ticket price paying, give it all to me because you owe me complainer. I, and my company, invest a great deal of money in our relationship with Delta on an annual basis. I am not the only Delta PM/DM at our company, many of which fly the high cost international routes, including some booking the BE seats TPAC and TATL. We are all up for grabs now, especially with our head office being in Toronto.
Delta, I say this to you. You are NOT the biggest any more (US/AA), you are NOT the most innovative anymore (JB, SWA), and the quality of the product is suffering with dirty planes at the gate, yellowing interiors of the pusher planes you keep purchasing from upgrading airlines, are not good at getting bags to the gate in many cases (AS kicks butt in this department), and the grouchy nature of not all, but many of your FA's. (Let me say this before I get flamed, or though ill of by all FA's. There are AWESOME FA's on many flights, NYC's and SLC crews tend to be my favorites, but the bad ones are REALLY bad) The high quality of your frequent flier programs was the glue holding us all together. Unfortunately, it would seem that you can't see this any more.
There's always the question of whether Delta listens to it's HVC's, MVC's, or any customer at all. I hope that they don't. Because, if they do, it means they ignore the feedback.
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This is what I see too. Unfortunately I expect we will see more of this...in order for the stock price to continue to rise in the short/medium term, they have to increase their financial situation from where it is now (and expected to be in terms of the market pricing in future actions). After you get the lower hanging fruit, it becomes harder and harder to get increasing margins and revenue (e.g. the initial large bump from, say, charging for checked luggage, won't recur, and it's harder to get increasingly marginal sources of revenue).
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This is what I see too. Unfortunately I expect we will see more of this...in order for the stock price to continue to rise in the short/medium term, they have to increase their financial situation from where it is now (and expected to be in terms of the market pricing in future actions). After you get the lower hanging fruit, it becomes harder and harder to get increasing margins and revenue (e.g. the initial large bump from, say, charging for checked luggage, won't recur, and it's harder to get increasingly marginal sources of revenue).
Delta.dumb for free; Delta.functional for $4.99 per month, discounted if paid with AX.
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Or bypass this with a GDS (though not useful for award booking, which is the main problem, and it also doesn`t solve agent incompetence.)
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(Unless you own a taxi fleet, in which case you would get paid for the ads on your taxis.)